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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 04:37pm
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I can explain it perfectly, it is girls basketball.

We can end this topic now.

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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 04:48pm
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Hey now! Some of us less fortunate referees don't have the choice of not working girls basketball.
Not a comment about the officials per say, it is just a raggedy play that has players falling over each other. That is all the explanation you need and the officials has to make a call. The official could have called just about anything and someone would be here wanting us to explain it to him or her.

BTW, what the hell does the official have on his wrist?

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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 04:51pm
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I also think the wrong official made the call here. This should have been something the C could have seen. I think the New Lead, turned Trail saw the last thing because he was straightlined. I do not blame him, we have players on top of each other and he missed the first action with all the back and forth. We even had a missed BC violation too.

A lot going on during this play.

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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 05:13pm
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We even had a missed BC violation.

No comment about the main topic; this whole thread is depressing.

But! No BC violation. It was close, but we had a dribbler and the ball never went back after finally gaining FC status. The last bounce before the ball came over touched the division line which is part of the BC. Or at least it was so close that I wouldn't have been 100% to make a call, especially right after a turnover like that where I'm not in a credible position to see it.


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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 05:24pm
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No comment about the main topic; this whole thread is depressing.

But! No BC violation. It was close, but we had a dribbler and the ball never went back after finally gaining FC status. The last bounce before the ball came over touched the division line which is part of the BC. Or at least it was so close that I wouldn't have been 100% to make a call, especially right after a turnover like that where I'm not in a credible position to see it.


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I agree, I don't think any good official is going to call a BC here and be happy about their call. The dribble with team control and front court status hits MAYBE BC and there's no way to be certain. Even in slow motion.
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 06:06pm
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No comment about the main topic; this whole thread is depressing.

But! No BC violation. It was close, but we had a dribbler and the ball never went back after finally gaining FC status. The last bounce before the ball came over touched the division line which is part of the BC. Or at least it was so close that I wouldn't have been 100% to make a call, especially right after a turnover like that where I'm not in a credible position to see it.


I think you are right, I had to slow it down to see the video. The ball looks like it is never brought back to the BC.

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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 06:11pm
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It's tough to see the white division line on the light colored court. The guy who selected these colors should be shot.
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 04:53pm
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Not a comment about the officials per say, it is just a raggedy play that has players falling over each other. That is all the explanation you need and the officials has to make a call. The official could have called just about anything and someone would be here wanting us to explain it to him or her.

BTW, what the hell does the official have on his wrist?

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Maybe he has a heart problem and has to watch his pulse.
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 05:11pm
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I hate that we are in an age where people with a cheap cell phone camera and a free youtube account can film a video clip like this and post it to the internet for the intention of embarrassing an official.

The officials on this game are clearly not working high level basketball (no offense to the OP's daughter, but the OP should check his level of humility, too), and are certainly not at a level where it is fair for them to be humiliated on the internet.

Missed call? Yes. But there were probably at least 20 others in that game alone.
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 05:19pm
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I hate that we are in an age where people with a cheap cell phone camera and a free youtube account can film a video clip like this and post it to the internet for the intention of embarrassing an official.

The officials on this game are clearly not working high level basketball (no offense to the OP's daughter, but the OP should check his level of humility, too), and are certainly not at a level where it is fair for them to be humiliated on the internet.

Missed call? Yes. But there were probably at least 20 others in that game alone.
Some legit points, but there's way more good than harm. You aren't really an official unless you are on youtube with 10k+ views blowing a call.

After every game I go to the AD and ask if they record the game. If so, I ask if I could get a copy of it. I get at least 70% of my games on video and watch them. If it wasn't for this strategy there's no way I'd be as good as I am. There's plenty of times I watch and go think how did I screw that call up so bad. We all screw up plays, and sometimes pretty badly.

I take zero offense to knowing those schools also see me blow the call and go, "Get a load of this clown!" All part of the job, shake it off.
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 05:49pm
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Some legit points, but there's way more good than harm. You aren't really an official unless you are on youtube with 10k+ views blowing a call.

After every game I go to the AD and ask if they record the game. If so, I ask if I could get a copy of it. I get at least 70% of my games on video and watch them. If it wasn't for this strategy there's no way I'd be as good as I am. There's plenty of times I watch and go think how did I screw that call up so bad. We all screw up plays, and sometimes pretty badly.

I take zero offense to knowing those schools also see me blow the call and go, "Get a load of this clown!" All part of the job, shake it off.
I get film from every game I work, and I break down every play. If I get on YouTube, so be it. I'm at a level where I'm comfortable with that fact and will continue to work games. but there is a level where we all begin. The people in the video look like rookies and it is not appropriate for some fan to film the game, clip one play, and post that play on the Internet and this forum looking for people to criticize and humiliate. Everyone started by working a lower level. I'm lucky that YouTube wasn't this popular when I started. We have a shortage of officials at lower levels. This is one of the reasons ... Fans at these games are typically much morse than those at the college level. Who wants to be verbally abused for two hours and humiliated on the Internet for $25?
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 06:15pm
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I get film from every game I work, and I break down every play. If I get on YouTube, so be it. I'm at a level where I'm comfortable with that fact and will continue to work games. but there is a level where we all begin. The people in the video look like rookies and it is not appropriate for some fan to film the game, clip one play, and post that play on the Internet and this forum looking for people to criticize and humiliate. Everyone started by working a lower level. I'm lucky that YouTube wasn't this popular when I started. We have a shortage of officials at lower levels. This is one of the reasons ... Fans at these games are typically much morse than those at the college level. Who wants to be verbally abused for two hours and humiliated on the Internet for $25?
I wonder how many see it this way -- honestly curious. Coaches want me on big games and I still do full on stupid stuff.

Thread is getting goofy, but I'll end it on a comical note:

Had a pretty good 3man JV game Thursday night. Was working a JV/Varsity double header and we had a first time 3man official for the JV game. Did everything I could to make him feel comfortable with the crew. Great pregame. Got most of the officials nerves out of the way. Everyone smiling getting ready to run out. Do captains, coaches, and books... everything looking great. I go to administer the jump ball... and... put the ball down and sprint out of the gym for a whistle. Thought I'd never make this mistake but it finally happened after eight years.

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