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[CT1]

If all the participants are willing to accept a "do-over" as the correct result, who am I to say differently?

[Mrumpiresir]

Originally Posted by CT1

If all the participants are willing to accept a "do-over" as the correct result, who am I to say differently?

You are the umpire charged with enforcing the rules.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by CT1

If all the participants are willing to accept a "do-over" as the correct result, who am I to say differently?

If all the prison inmates are willing to accept "let us all out" as the correct result, who is the warden to say otherwise?

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

If all the prison inmates are willing to accept "let us all out" as the correct result, who is the warden to say otherwise?

What the heck in that case, we don't need no stinking umpires.

Just "Let them play"

More money for hot dogs, ice cream and beer after the game.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

If all the prison inmates are willing to accept "let us all out" as the correct result, who is the warden to say otherwise?

Since the warden is a "participant", my conditional is not met.

[charliej47]

Usually if the batter is not in the box, I have my hand up and as such the ball is dead so there is no penalty.

If I do't have my hand up, then the ball is live and all rules apply.

[charliej47]

I can only remember once in the last 10 yrs where F1 stepped off with the wrong foot during a live ball(that I saw anyway). When this happened, we called a balk.

I try to be consistent in holding up my hand when the batter is not in the box and it looks like F1 might start to pitch.

[dash_riprock]

I never put my hand up unless the ball is already dead. I put it up just before I put the ball back in play. That's it.

[David Emerling]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

I never put my hand up unless the ball is already dead. I put it up just before I put the ball back in play. That's it.

I do the same thing. I do not hold my hand up, even if the batter asks me to do so because that causes the ball to be dead. I don't say anything to the batter and they usually do not notice that I am not holding up my hand. High school pitchers never pitch the ball anyway. They wait. This is especially true with runners on base. The runners should not lose their liability to be picked off, nor should the pitcher lose the option to pick them off simply because the batter is digging in.

There is no need for the umpire to hold up his hand because, by rule, the pitcher has an obligation to not deliver the pitch until the batter is reasonably ready. A pitcher who delivers the ball while the batter is clearly not ready (i.e. head down and digging in) is violating a rule. There is no reason to make the ball dead in this situation. Pitchers should have the situational awareness not to pitch the ball when the batter is not ready. Nearly all of them do.

[charliej47]

Originally Posted by CT1

If all the participants are willing to accept a "do-over" as the correct result, who am I to say differently?

There is a definition in the FED rules that cover my stated "do-overs". The Ohio State Rules interpreter covered them some years ago and I questioned Kyle about these incidents at the state required meeting and he outlined them very well. He discussed the dust and insects and also falling because of poor ground conditions.

[zm1283]

I've never seen this called in this area in a high school game and I wouldn't call it, and no coaches expect it to be called. I don't pick boogers on this one.

[asdf]

again... what do you say to the one coach that confronts you with the rule?

[charliej47]

I've had to call a "delay of game" on a pitcher maybe 5 times in the last 10 years and have yet to have a coach question what I called but why I called it.

I've explained the call and when they say "I've never heard of that", I say today, it gets called.

[charliej47]

I have had some assignors tell me that they can not assign me to certain schools as the coaches have complained about me enforcing unknown rules.

I always answer that there are more games then there are days, so assign me somewhere else.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by asdf

again... what do you say to the one coach that confronts you with the rule?

None of them do.