Illegal pitch? Ball awarded?

[charliej47]

Here in South-West Ohio, I've called this about 3 time in 25 yrs of high school umpiring.

[David Emerling]

Originally Posted by charliej47

Here in South-West Ohio, I've called this about 3 time in 25 yrs of high school umpiring.

Is that because in 25 years, only 3 times has the pitcher, with no runners on base, aborted his delivery for one reason or another? Or, has it actually happened numerous times, but you only chose to invoke the rule 3 times?

I'd have to say that this happens to me, at a minimum, once per year. Sometimes more frequently. My experience is that it's not all that rare.

[charliej47]

I'm saying that there are a lot of reasons for an aborted pitch, but I've only seen it three times where it was callable.

I've seen times when the pitcher falls or gets to dance with bees or something like that. I've seen dust swirls that cause the pitcher to stop. I've always treated these instances as "do-overs".

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by charliej47

Here in South-West Ohio, I've called this about 3 time in 25 yrs of high school umpiring.

wow. I've seen it once in the past 20 years. I did call it. Both sides murmured that it was the right call.

[CT1]

If all the participants are willing to accept a "do-over" as the correct result, who am I to say differently?

[Mrumpiresir]

Originally Posted by CT1

If all the participants are willing to accept a "do-over" as the correct result, who am I to say differently?

You are the umpire charged with enforcing the rules.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by CT1

If all the participants are willing to accept a "do-over" as the correct result, who am I to say differently?

If all the prison inmates are willing to accept "let us all out" as the correct result, who is the warden to say otherwise?

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

If all the prison inmates are willing to accept "let us all out" as the correct result, who is the warden to say otherwise?

What the heck in that case, we don't need no stinking umpires.

Just "Let them play"

More money for hot dogs, ice cream and beer after the game.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

If all the prison inmates are willing to accept "let us all out" as the correct result, who is the warden to say otherwise?

Since the warden is a "participant", my conditional is not met.

[charliej47]

Usually if the batter is not in the box, I have my hand up and as such the ball is dead so there is no penalty.

If I do't have my hand up, then the ball is live and all rules apply.

[charliej47]

I can only remember once in the last 10 yrs where F1 stepped off with the wrong foot during a live ball(that I saw anyway). When this happened, we called a balk.

I try to be consistent in holding up my hand when the batter is not in the box and it looks like F1 might start to pitch.

[charliej47]

Originally Posted by CT1

If all the participants are willing to accept a "do-over" as the correct result, who am I to say differently?

There is a definition in the FED rules that cover my stated "do-overs". The Ohio State Rules interpreter covered them some years ago and I questioned Kyle about these incidents at the state required meeting and he outlined them very well. He discussed the dust and insects and also falling because of poor ground conditions.

[zm1283]

I've never seen this called in this area in a high school game and I wouldn't call it, and no coaches expect it to be called. I don't pick boogers on this one.

[asdf]

again... what do you say to the one coach that confronts you with the rule?

[charliej47]

I've had to call a "delay of game" on a pitcher maybe 5 times in the last 10 years and have yet to have a coach question what I called but why I called it.

I've explained the call and when they say "I've never heard of that", I say today, it gets called.