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Old Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:48pm
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Bottom line here is three things:

1. Get the call right.
2. Be in position to get the call right.
3. Get the call right.

Whether your in the A, B,C, D, E F or G position, you shouldn't park yourself there anyway. There is nothing wrong with moving the legs and always trying to improve your position, just come to a stop and make your call.

In two man mechanics I would recommend the position that accomplishes the above. The why is a matter of who you talk to or the manual you read (for two man mechanics).
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I like C for bases loaded (sometimes), R1/R2, R2/R3, and R3 only. I'm moving on every play into position, and I'm never in either "B" or "C" once the ball is hit. It is merely a starting point, and C is a much better starting point for R3 only, and is a personal preference with bases loaded, depending on which I feel comfortable in based on who is batting and the situation. I am every bit as close on a 6-4-3 DP as someone starting in B, because I know how to move around the diamond properly.
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 02:44am
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I am every bit as close on a 6-4-3 DP as someone starting in B, because I know how to move around the diamond properly.
You must be the only one

I've been to two clinics run by professional umpires, and this wasn't even close to what was taught.

It sounds like you must run for C to B, and make your calls on the run.
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 02:58am
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You must be the only one

I've been to two clinics run by professional umpires, and this wasn't even close to what was taught.

It sounds like you must run for C to B, and make your calls on the run.
Well, that's nice and all. I learned from professionals as well. What were you taught? Why don't you mention that, instead of just criticizing all the time? I am set for all my calls. You need to see me umpire before you say asinine, ridiculous statements. If I'm in C and it is going to be a 6-4-3 or 4-6-3 DP, I do move rapidly toward B when the ball is hit, and stop in perfect position to see the play at 2nd, and I then signal the out as I drift over to the B area (as was taught by pro umpires), which is about 3 or 4 good steps, then turning with the throw and setting to see play at first. Excellent position to see both plays. I am all about getting the best angles and distance I can get out of every play in order to be in good position. Damn, why am always forced to explain things to you?

I don't start in B, turn around, call play at 2nd, turn toward 1st, and call play at first. Why, is that how you were taught? I don't start in C and just stand there to call both plays. Why, is that how you were taught?
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 08:28am
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Well, that's nice and all. I learned from professionals as well. What were you taught? Why don't you mention that, instead of just criticizing all the time? I am set for all my calls. You need to see me umpire before you say asinine, ridiculous statements. If I'm in C and it is going to be a 6-4-3 or 4-6-3 DP, I do move rapidly toward B when the ball is hit, and stop in perfect position to see the play at 2nd, and I then signal the out as I drift over to the B area (as was taught by pro umpires), which is about 3 or 4 good steps, then turning with the throw and setting to see play at first. Excellent position to see both plays. I am all about getting the best angles and distance I can get out of every play in order to be in good position. Damn, why am always forced to explain things to you?

I don't start in B, turn around, call play at 2nd, turn toward 1st, and call play at first. Why, is that how you were taught? I don't start in C and just stand there to call both plays. Why, is that how you were taught?
First of all, you needn't get so defensive. Second of all, you needn't be so insulting in the process either. Discuss, don't debase.

They showed us how to step back with one foot depending on which side of us the ball was hit, turn, step and set for the play at 2B. Then how to turn, step, and set for the throw to 1B. AT NO TIME WAS THERE ANY MENTION OF HAVING TO MOVE FROM C TO B. They teach angle over distance.

Perhaps you could post some video of yourself doing all these remarkable deeds. Could you possibly provide us about 15 minutes of instructions on You Tube? I think myself and others would like to see what they're missing.

Personally, I'd bet dollars to donuts my mechanics on the field exceed yours in each and every way. Know your role, player.
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:49am
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First of all, you needn't get so defensive. Second of all, you needn't be so insulting in the process either. Discuss, don't debase.

They showed us how to step back with one foot depending on which side of us the ball was hit, turn, step and set for the play at 2B. Then how to turn, step, and set for the throw to 1B. AT NO TIME WAS THERE ANY MENTION OF HAVING TO MOVE FROM C TO B. They teach angle over distance.

Perhaps you could post some video of yourself doing all these remarkable deeds. Could you possibly provide us about 15 minutes of instructions on You Tube? I think myself and others would like to see what they're missing.

Personally, I'd bet dollars to donuts my mechanics on the field exceed yours in each and every way. Know your role, player.
Trust me sonny, I would get the dollars, and you'd be eating the donuts. I am very sharp, both in appearance and mechanics. I am a highly respected umpire in my current association, as I was in my former.

Do you not see how your posts are insulting from the very start? Pretty easy to get defensive when you constantly start the arguments.
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Trust me sonny, I would get the dollars, and you'd be eating the donuts. I am very sharp, both in appearance and mechanics. I am a highly respected umpire in my current association, as I was in my former.

Do you not see how your posts are insulting from the very start? Pretty easy to get defensive when you constantly start the arguments.
I doubt you're as respected as you claim. I've got the 411 from an associate of mine on you from your former association, the prestigious SDCBUA, so don't even try to go there.

As for the defensive part, how many posters on this forum have you invited out to your neck of the woods at their own expense so you could kick their hind ends back to where they came from. At least you could offer them cab fare from the airport. Besides, I've seen you laughed off this board at least a couple of times.

Like I said before, debate, don't debase. Jesus A Christ, it's just a freakin' chat room.
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 08:54pm
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I doubt you're as respected as you claim. I've got the 411 from an associate of mine on you from your former association, the prestigious SDCBUA, so don't even try to go there.

As for the defensive part, how many posters on this forum have you invited out to your neck of the woods at their own expense so you could kick their hind ends back to where they came from. At least you could offer them cab fare from the airport. Besides, I've seen you laughed off this board at least a couple of times.

Like I said before, debate, don't debase. Jesus A Christ, it's just a freakin' chat room.
Stop blaspheming and I invite you (you are the only one I've invited, BTW, so the answer is ONE), and I'll pay your cab fare. You are laughed off this board on a daily basis. You always have something insulting to say, and is why you are the undisputed leader on ignore lists on this site. And whoever you know from my old association doesn't know jacksh!t. You just don't see how you are the debaser in every single instance on this board. You have not changed since day 1. How many times do you have to get banned before you are stopped?
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