String theory for NFHS?

[bigda65]

In a discussion with a high school umpire about a batted ball hitting a runner, I got the impression that they use the string theory to determine whether or not a batted ball has passed a fielder. Is this the case for NFHS?

I know the MLB rulebook says (k) A fair ball touches him on fair territory before touching a fielder. If a fair ball goes
through, or by, an infielder, and touches a runner immediately back of him, or
touches the runner after having been deflected by a fielder, the umpire shall not
declare the runner out for being touched by a batted ball. In making such decision
the umpire must be convinced that the ball passed through, or by, the fielder, and
that no other infielder had the chance to make a play on the ball.

What does the NFHS rulebook say??

[UmpJM]

bigda,

The NFHS interp is the "string theory" suggested by your colleague.

JM

[Welpe]

I wonder what OBR has against one dimensional quarks?

[bigda65]

JM,

How is the string theory applied to a barry bonds type shift, R2, and he gets hit directly between 2nd and 3rd. The farthest (is that a word?) left infielder is directly between the pitchers mound and 2nd base.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bigda65

JM,

How is the string theory applied to a barry bonds type shift, R2, and he gets hit directly between 2nd and 3rd. The farthest (is that a word?) left infielder is directly between the pitchers mound and 2nd base.

1) Won't happen. No one would have this shift with R2.

2) Not exacltly covered, but I'd draw a line from that fielder perpendicular to the third base line and use that as part of the string.

[dileonardoja]

What is the string theory?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by dileonardoja

What is the string theory?

Read Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time.

MTD, Sr.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by dileonardoja

What is the string theory?

OBR: A runner is out when hit by a batted ball unless the ball goes THROUGH OR IMMEDIATELY PAST a fielder.

FED: A runner is out when hit by a batted ball unless the ball has passed a fielder. So, here, stretch a string from F3 to F4 to F6 to F5. IF the ball passes the string, the runner is not out.

[dileonardoja]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Read Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time.

MTD, Sr.

Not Funny, Not Helpful

[bigda65]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

OBR: A runner is out when hit by a batted ball unless the ball goes THROUGH OR IMMEDIATELY PAST a fielder.

FED: A runner is out when hit by a batted ball unless the ball has passed a fielder. So, here, stretch a string from F3 to F4 to F6 to F5. IF the ball passes the string, the runner is not out.

Bob,

Could you give a couple of examples of being hit with a batted ball, where the call would be different based on which rule set you were using.

I gave an example to my colleague, where both infielders (1b and 2b) were playing directly in front of their respective bases.
The runner is hit while half way between 1b and 2b.
Safe in Fed
Out in MLB

Can you give me any more insight on how to clarify the difference for my colleague?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bigda65

Safe in Fed
Out in MLB

That's one way.

The other is:
Out in MLB
Safe in FED

That should just about cover it.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bigda65

Bob,

Could you give a couple of examples of being hit with a batted ball, where the call would be different based on which rule set you were using.

I gave an example to my colleague, where both infielders (1b and 2b) were playing directly in front of their respective bases.
The runner is hit while half way between 1b and 2b.
Safe in Fed
Out in MLB

Can you give me any more insight on how to clarify the difference for my colleague?

I'm not Bob, but maybe this will help:

INFIELD BACK

1. R1 hit by batted ball between 1B and 2B
FED: out
OBR: out

INFIELD IN

2. R1 hit by batted ball between 1B and 2B (this is your case)
FED: play on
OBR: out

3. R1 hit by batted ball directly behind F4
FED: play on
OBR: play on


I can't envision a case in which you'd have an out under FED but not OBR.

This is a kind of interference, BTW. The ball is dead, other runners returned to the TOI base.

[bigda65]

Thanks guys,

I will try to send him here and read a little, He thinks it is me against the world.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bigda65

Thanks guys,

I will try to send him here and read a little, He thinks it is me against the world.

There's some guys in my association who like to keep it simple: runner who gets hit by a batted ball is out. Period. End of story, no matter the code.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I
I can't envision a case in which you'd have an out under OBR but not FED.

Do you mean an out under FED but not OBR?