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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 02:38am
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Jose Offerman punches Ump

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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 02:52am
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That stupid tool needs to spends some quality time in the cooler.

At least he didn't come out with a bat this time.....

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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 06:59am
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CREW:
P- Jason Bradley (IL-MLB Callup #62)
1B-D.J. Reyburn (PCL-MLB Callup #70)
2B-Domingo Polenno
3B-Verman Mejia
RF-Santo Silvestre
LF-Ramon DeLosSantos
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:46am
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How do you go down from that?

He didn't even land it.

Unforgivable, but still a phantom punch. And I can't understand a word they're saying.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 11:06am
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How do you go down from that?

He didn't even land it.

Unforgivable, but still a phantom punch. And I can't understand a word they're saying.
I think he lost his balance. Offerman threw a punch, though, so whether it landed or not is really not important. What a tool.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 12:47pm
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If a player, coach, or fan takes a swipe at me and even TOUCHES me, I'm going down. And I'm staying down until the ambulance arrives. He will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. There's no place is sports for assaulting officials, and going down certainly magnifies how serious the situation is.

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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 01:20pm
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Every league around the world needs to ban him from any form of participation.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 04:06pm
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I am in full agreement with all however this is NOT how you diffuse a situation, by locking you amrs together and trying to get into a butting contest with the manager.

NOT HANDLED WELL. He took a bad situation and made it worse.

No, it does not justify the HC's action but it is a perfect example on how NOT to handle a situation, way too aggressive.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 05:07pm
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I am in full agreement with all however this is NOT how you diffuse a situation, by locking you amrs together and trying to get into a butting contest with the manager.

NOT HANDLED WELL. He took a bad situation and made it worse.

No, it does not justify the HC's action but it is a perfect example on how NOT to handle a situation, way too aggressive.
I would like to hear the proper way to handle that situation, please
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 05:09pm
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Especially, since you probably know all the details.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 05:26pm
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Simple ?

I saw the same video as everyone else BB22. It was stated that the umpire should not have crossed his arms like that and was way too aggressive. I just wanted to see what the proper way to handle that was
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 06:23pm
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Offerman threw a punch, though, so whether it landed or not is really not important.
Agreed, obviously. (Thus my use of the word unforgivable)

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Every league around the world needs to ban him from any form of participation.
Touché!

Couldn't be better stated.
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I am in full agreement with all however this is NOT how you diffuse a situation, by locking you arms together and trying to get into a butting contest with the manager.

NOT HANDLED WELL. He took a bad situation and made it worse.

No, it does not justify the HC's action but it is a perfect example on how NOT to handle a situation, way too aggressive.
Absolutely!! This guy caused this circus. A player or a coach or a manager must have his fire put out, not fueled by the umpire. Horrible job. H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E.

Again, of course, Offerman's [or anyone's] throwing of a punch at an umpire is unforgivable.
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If a player, coach, or fan takes a swipe at me and even TOUCHES me, I'm going down. And I'm staying down until the ambulance arrives. He will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. There's no place is sports for assaulting officials, and going down certainly magnifies how serious the situation is.

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I would never go down in any situation that even resembled a brawl.

EVER!

The worst thing you could possibly do is go to the ground. You know the term, getting the $hit kicked out of you? That's how you get it done to you, by going down. You do everything humanly possible to stay up and move. Everything. Watch Ali again sometime, or Sugar Ray Leonard. The main focus is to make 'em miss and move away.

It's more important to avoid cracked ribs or a shattered jaw or a skull fracture than to exaggerate the impact of a minor blow so that the eventual punishment to your attacker is worse. That's a horrible instinct. Get over that fast.

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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 06:38pm
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I am in full agreement with all however this is NOT how you diffuse a situation, by locking you amrs together and trying to get into a butting contest with the manager.

NOT HANDLED WELL. He took a bad situation and made it worse.

No, it does not justify the HC's action but it is a perfect example on how NOT to handle a situation, way too aggressive.
You have no idea what may have been going on between Offerman and the umpires throughout the Dominican League playoffs, or throughout the winter league season. Reyburn (I'm guessing here) was the crew chief as he has several years at AAA, and was stepping in as a crew chief (or senior umpire) should, to help out Bradley, who just completed his first year at AAA. Also, keep in mind that winter ball in the Caribbean is a whole different animal that pro ball here in the states. You can take my word for this, or you can ask any past or present MiLB umpire who's worked down there.
So go easy here, and don't be so quick to be critical of how Reyburn handled himself.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 07:17pm
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Locals will have to do rest of both series.

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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 07:30pm
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DJ did his job as crew chief appropriately, as trained, and with restraint. He got in between his plate ump and the manager and folded his arms to keep the manager at a distance from his body and make himself less vulnerable to a bump or other contact.

Each year fewer MiLB umpires are willing to work winter ball in Latin America for fear of this kind of behavior and threats made off the field. Two umpires who have worked down south in the past have told me that except for games, they never left their hotel rooms out of such fear.

High school umpires have no business passing judgment on DJ in this incident.
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