Jose Offerman punches Ump

[Umpmazza]

Holy cow ...

YouTube - Trompon Jose Offerman

[kylejt]

That stupid tool needs to spends some quality time in the cooler.

At least he didn't come out with a bat this time.....

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

Holy cow ...

YouTube - Trompon Jose Offerman

CREW:
P- Jason Bradley (IL-MLB Callup #62)
1B-D.J. Reyburn (PCL-MLB Callup #70)
2B-Domingo Polenno
3B-Verman Mejia
RF-Santo Silvestre
LF-Ramon DeLosSantos

[Kevin Finnerty]

How do you go down from that?

He didn't even land it.

Unforgivable, but still a phantom punch. And I can't understand a word they're saying.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

How do you go down from that?

He didn't even land it.

Unforgivable, but still a phantom punch. And I can't understand a word they're saying.

I think he lost his balance. Offerman threw a punch, though, so whether it landed or not is really not important. What a tool.

[JJ]

If a player, coach, or fan takes a swipe at me and even TOUCHES me, I'm going down. And I'm staying down until the ambulance arrives. He will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. There's no place is sports for assaulting officials, and going down certainly magnifies how serious the situation is.

JJ

[batboy22]

Every league around the world needs to ban him from any form of participation.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Offerman threw a punch, though, so whether it landed or not is really not important.

Agreed, obviously. (Thus my use of the word unforgivable)

Originally Posted by batboy22

Every league around the world needs to ban him from any form of participation.

Touché!

Couldn't be better stated.

Originally Posted by jicecone

I am in full agreement with all however this is NOT how you diffuse a situation, by locking you arms together and trying to get into a butting contest with the manager.

NOT HANDLED WELL. He took a bad situation and made it worse.

No, it does not justify the HC's action but it is a perfect example on how NOT to handle a situation, way too aggressive.

Absolutely!! This guy caused this circus. A player or a coach or a manager must have his fire put out, not fueled by the umpire. Horrible job. H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E.

Again, of course, Offerman's [or anyone's] throwing of a punch at an umpire is unforgivable.

Originally Posted by JJ

If a player, coach, or fan takes a swipe at me and even TOUCHES me, I'm going down. And I'm staying down until the ambulance arrives. He will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. There's no place is sports for assaulting officials, and going down certainly magnifies how serious the situation is.

JJ

I would never go down in any situation that even resembled a brawl.

EVER!

The worst thing you could possibly do is go to the ground. You know the term, getting the $hit kicked out of you? That's how you get it done to you, by going down. You do everything humanly possible to stay up and move. Everything. Watch Ali again sometime, or Sugar Ray Leonard. The main focus is to make 'em miss and move away.

It's more important to avoid cracked ribs or a shattered jaw or a skull fracture than to exaggerate the impact of a minor blow so that the eventual punishment to your attacker is worse. That's a horrible instinct. Get over that fast.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

And I can't understand a word they're saying.

For a nominal fee I'd be happy to translate the conversation for ya.

[LeeBallanfant]

Locals will have to do rest of both series.

Umps leave DR after Offerman incident | MLB.com: News

[Ump153]

DJ did his job as crew chief appropriately, as trained, and with restraint. He got in between his plate ump and the manager and folded his arms to keep the manager at a distance from his body and make himself less vulnerable to a bump or other contact.

Each year fewer MiLB umpires are willing to work winter ball in Latin America for fear of this kind of behavior and threats made off the field. Two umpires who have worked down south in the past have told me that except for games, they never left their hotel rooms out of such fear.

High school umpires have no business passing judgment on DJ in this incident.

[batboy22]

Originally Posted by Ump153

DJ did his job as crew chief appropriately, as trained, and with restraint. He got in between his plate ump and the manager and folded his arms to keep the manager at a distance from his body and make himself less vulnerable to a bump or other contact.

Each year fewer MiLB umpires are willing to work winter ball in Latin America for fear of this kind of behavior and threats made off the field. Two umpires who have worked down south in the past have told me that except for games, they never left their hotel rooms out of such fear.

High school umpires have no business passing judgment on DJ in this incident.

I have a couple friend who in the past have been down there for winter ball and have said similar things. As far as how bad it can get.
Btw I enjoy watching DJ work when he gets called up to MLB

[jicecone]

Again, the HC should have the book thrown at him, even charges filed.

I am also well aware, of where that game took place, which is even more surprising at the way it was handled, knowing the dungeon they were working in and it's reputation.

Again , and I mean this sincerly, there is NO justification for the HC, NONE. But, in my opinion, which may mean squat, the crew chief did not handle this correct. And for those that need instructions on how it could of been handled differently, spend 25 years officiating Ice Hockey and you will begin to understand.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Again
Again , and I mean this sincerly, there is NO justification for the HC, NONE. But, in my opinion, which may mean squat, the crew chief did not handle this correct. And for those that need instructions on how it could of been handled differently, spend 25 years officiating Ice Hockey and you will begin to understand.

You are entitled to your opinion, but, again, DJ did as he was trained to do, and in that time and place, it was appropriate. And if you need instructions as to why, receive the same training as he did, become a AAA MiLB umpire, and work in the Dominican League, and you will begin to understand.

I wouldn't second guess a trained hockey official doing what he was trained to do, and I won't second guess DJ doing what he was trained to do.

We are obviously seeing the video with different eyes and different backgrounds, but I really don't see all this agression some apparently do. I see far more protective stances than agressive stances by the crew chief.

[umpref]

I am not just a high school umpire. As usual, we see another case of professional umpires who seem to do everything possible to fan the flames. Hands on hips. Two umpires on one person. Coach talking to one umpire and another umpire cuts in front and get's in his face to talk in an animated fashion. Walking TOWARDS the coach was talking in an animated fashion. Folding the arms.

Fail! But these are the kinds of things I see from MANY ex and current professional umpires, during pro, college, and high school games. I also see the situations almost ALWAYS blow up and turn into crapstorms.

This guy could have been dealt with much differently. There is NOTHING that could be discussed for THAT LONG on the field! PERIOD! By them even allowing the guy to carry on that long without ejecting him is a fail! Then to display all the aggresive behavior towards him.

"This is what I got coach". After you explain, it is OVER! There is nothing else to talk about. No further dialog is needed once he asks why and you explain. I tell them it is over. If they keep carrying on, I explain that I am going back to my position. If they are still there when I get to that position, they are gone. Eject if needed and TURN AWAY AND LET YOUR PARTNERS GET HIM OUT OF THE PARK! If he refused to go, get security to take care of it.