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Old Wed Aug 05, 2009, 01:26pm
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What classifies someone as a rat?

Making one off-handed sarcastic remark in a blowout game;

or

Showing up late, dressing like a skateboarder, having no clue or no interest in finding a clue, talking on a cell phone in between innings, and texting during an inning?

The fact that you call me a rat and not him tells me all I need to know about you.

I am a smart alleck. Cell Phone McGhee is the rat

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Old Wed Aug 05, 2009, 02:45pm
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My point was is that if you are going to toss him, toss him while he is on the field.
But he waited until he was in the dugout to act like a rat. Put me in the "he does that, he's gotta go" camp.
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If the PU would have just said, "What's that, Casey?" Then he could have been dumped on the field and that looks better.

If ti were me, I would have probably ejected him for yelling at me on the field. But, I have a pretty itchy trigger finger.
Unfortunately for you that's also known as baiting. And generic, every day yelling at an umpire is not enough for an ejection in pro ball.

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What classifies someone as a rat?

Making one off-handed sarcastic remark in a blowout game;

or

Showing up late, dressing like a skateboarder, having no clue or no interest in finding a clue, talking on a cell phone in between innings, and texting during an inning?

The fact that you call me a rat and not him tells me all I need to know about you.

I am a smart alleck. Cell Phone McGhee is the rat

Joe
Uggghhh...Coach, I'm not going to let you bring up old threads. I've heard enough.

Yes, you are a smartaleck. Whether you are also a rat is for each person reading this thread to decide. I know how I would answer the question.
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Old Wed Aug 05, 2009, 02:53pm
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But he waited until he was in the dugout to act like a rat. Put me in the "he does that, he's gotta go" camp.

Unfortunately for you that's also known as baiting. And generic, every day yelling at an umpire is not enough for an ejection in pro ball.


Uggghhh...Coach, I'm not going to let you bring up old threads. I've heard enough.

Yes, you are a smartaleck. Whether you are also a rat is for each person reading this thread to decide. I know how I would answer the question.
Calling me coach, gee that is clever-you must be so proud of your razor sharp wit.

I have a problem with umpires that blame everyone but the umpire every time in every situation.

I have always tried to look at the situation and try to figure out what happened-not just assume that the umpire is right no matter what.

Some of the same people that call me a rat have no problem whatsoever with intentionally making the wrong call to screw players/coaches that they do not like.

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Old Wed Aug 05, 2009, 02:58pm
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Calling me coach, gee that is clever-you must be so proud of your razor sharp wit.
I'm just as proud of mine as you obviously are of yours.

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Some of the same people that call me a rat have no problem whatsoever with intentionally making the wrong call to screw players/coaches that they do not like.
Really? Well then, tell us, who here endorses the FYC? We haven't had that discussion for a while, and it will be a heck of a lot more interesting than this thread.
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Old Wed Aug 05, 2009, 03:02pm
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Really? Well then, tell us, who here endorses the FYC? We haven't had that discussion for a while, and it will be a heck of a lot more interesting than this thread.
Read through the threads. It is all over the place.
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I thought this is why PMs were invented...

Holy Sh!t. I thought that maybe, just maybe this thread would turn back to the real question at hand, but instead I am up to my knees in p!ss, I think someone owes me a new pair of pants.
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Ejectable offenses lead to ejections. If possible, you try to make them look like you weren't the aggressor. Rats know this, so they find ways to make themselves look innocent.

It doesn't mean they are.

Good EJ.
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Old Wed Aug 05, 2009, 02:59pm
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Ejectable offenses lead to ejections. If possible, you try to make them look like you weren't the aggressor. Rats know this, so they find ways to make themselves look innocent.

It doesn't mean they are.

Good EJ.
I agree with you-with an edit to the first sentence.

Only ejectable offenses should lead to ejections.

Over the years, I have seen plenty of ejectable offenses not lead to ejections. I have also seen NON-ejectable behavior lead to ejections-I have been guilty of a few of those, myself. So, when I see an ejection in the MLB, I try to figure out what happened. Sometimes, it is obvious, other times it is not. Sometimes, umpires are in the wrong

Just because I do not blindly accept what an umpire's actions does not make me a rat.

I defended Todd Tichenor's 4 ejection game a while back to many people in person who blamed the umpire. In my personal relationships, I am nearly always explaining why the umpire was right.

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Old Wed Aug 05, 2009, 05:18pm
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I agree with you-with an edit to the first sentence.

Only ejectable offenses should lead to ejections.

Over the years, I have seen plenty of ejectable offenses not lead to ejections. I have also seen NON-ejectable behavior lead to ejections-I have been guilty of a few of those, myself. So, when I see an ejection in the MLB, I try to figure out what happened. Sometimes, it is obvious, other times it is not. Sometimes, umpires are in the wrong

Just because I do not blindly accept what an umpire's actions does not make me a rat.

I defended Todd Tichenor's 4 ejection game a while back to many people in person who blamed the umpire. In my personal relationships, I am nearly always explaining why the umpire was right.
This was an ejectable offense, the video shows what he did so I think many people on here are wondering why you want to ask what did he do?

It seems clear as day what he did. Its also clear as day that this is ejectable offense.
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Old Wed Aug 05, 2009, 04:12pm
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I am a smart alleck. Cell Phone McGhee is the rat
No, you lied to him. You made up a rule and told him it was too late to change a call because it would be going against your team. Cell Phone McGhee might be pretty bad as an umpire but you are still a rat.
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