Mil @ LA Mota ejection-Vin has the call

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Welpe

That works if he does anything on the field that would warrant him being tossed but I'm not going to pass on an ejection just because the ejectee is in the dugout.

I watched the video again. I originally did not notice what Blake did as a mock of Gibson's puchout-I guess it probably was. I could see dumping him for that. However, if that is all he did, some guys would let it slide and be able to live happy and normal lives.

Someone else mentioned a possible history with those two. If there is, then who knows what was really going on.

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I watched the video again. I originally did not notice what Blake did as a mock of Gibson's puchout-I guess it probably was. I could see dumping him for that. However, if that is all he did, some guys would let it slide and be able to live happy and normal lives.

Someone else mentioned a possible history with those two. If there is, then who knows what was really going on.

So, you don't approve of what Blake did? And, with him doing it and yelling across the field directly at Gibson?

Would you have ejected him if he did all of that to you and was yelling across the field at you saying things like "that's BS"? Would it take you 30 seconds to finally say something or get rid of him?

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by GA Umpire

So, you don't approve of what Blake did? And, with him doing it and yelling across the field directly at Gibson?

Would you have ejected him if he did all of that to you and was yelling across the field at you saying things like "that's BS"? Would it take you 30 seconds to finally say something or get rid of him?

If the PU would have just said, "What's that, Casey?" Then he could have been dumped on the field and that looks better. THAT is what I was trying to say. It was a STYLE comment more than anything else.

You have such a bias toward anything that I say because I made a sarcastic remark to a pile of turd getting paid to be an umpire that you cannot see clearly.

If ti were me, I would have probably ejected him for yelling at me on the field. But, I have a pretty itchy trigger finger.

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

You have such a bias toward anything that I say because I made a sarcastic remark to a pile of turd getting paid to be an umpire that you cannot see clearly.

If that were true, then you keep making those same remarks and reinforcing it. And, don't forget you telling an umpire that he couldn't change his call to an out call[Rat move]. Those 2 stand out the most but I am sure there are/will be more. So, my comment is not without base.

And, you suggest the PU should have baited Casey? So, you have a problem with "style" but don't have a problem with "baiting"?

[jwwashburn]

What classifies someone as a rat?

Making one off-handed sarcastic remark in a blowout game;

or

Showing up late, dressing like a skateboarder, having no clue or no interest in finding a clue, talking on a cell phone in between innings, and texting during an inning?

The fact that you call me a rat and not him tells me all I need to know about you.

I am a smart alleck. Cell Phone McGhee is the rat

Joe

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

My point was is that if you are going to toss him, toss him while he is on the field.

But he waited until he was in the dugout to act like a rat. Put me in the "he does that, he's gotta go" camp.

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

If the PU would have just said, "What's that, Casey?" Then he could have been dumped on the field and that looks better.

If ti were me, I would have probably ejected him for yelling at me on the field. But, I have a pretty itchy trigger finger.

Unfortunately for you that's also known as baiting. And generic, every day yelling at an umpire is not enough for an ejection in pro ball.

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

What classifies someone as a rat?

Making one off-handed sarcastic remark in a blowout game;

or

Showing up late, dressing like a skateboarder, having no clue or no interest in finding a clue, talking on a cell phone in between innings, and texting during an inning?

The fact that you call me a rat and not him tells me all I need to know about you.

I am a smart alleck. Cell Phone McGhee is the rat

Joe

Uggghhh...Coach, I'm not going to let you bring up old threads. I've heard enough.

Yes, you are a smartaleck. Whether you are also a rat is for each person reading this thread to decide. I know how I would answer the question.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

But he waited until he was in the dugout to act like a rat. Put me in the "he does that, he's gotta go" camp.

Unfortunately for you that's also known as baiting. And generic, every day yelling at an umpire is not enough for an ejection in pro ball.


Uggghhh...Coach, I'm not going to let you bring up old threads. I've heard enough.

Yes, you are a smartaleck. Whether you are also a rat is for each person reading this thread to decide. I know how I would answer the question.

Calling me coach, gee that is clever-you must be so proud of your razor sharp wit.

I have a problem with umpires that blame everyone but the umpire every time in every situation.

I have always tried to look at the situation and try to figure out what happened-not just assume that the umpire is right no matter what.

Some of the same people that call me a rat have no problem whatsoever with intentionally making the wrong call to screw players/coaches that they do not like.

[TussAgee11]

Ejectable offenses lead to ejections. If possible, you try to make them look like you weren't the aggressor. Rats know this, so they find ways to make themselves look innocent.

It doesn't mean they are.

Good EJ.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Ejectable offenses lead to ejections. If possible, you try to make them look like you weren't the aggressor. Rats know this, so they find ways to make themselves look innocent.

It doesn't mean they are.

Good EJ.

I agree with you-with an edit to the first sentence.

Only ejectable offenses should lead to ejections.

Over the years, I have seen plenty of ejectable offenses not lead to ejections. I have also seen NON-ejectable behavior lead to ejections-I have been guilty of a few of those, myself. So, when I see an ejection in the MLB, I try to figure out what happened. Sometimes, it is obvious, other times it is not. Sometimes, umpires are in the wrong

Just because I do not blindly accept what an umpire's actions does not make me a rat.

I defended Todd Tichenor's 4 ejection game a while back to many people in person who blamed the umpire. In my personal relationships, I am nearly always explaining why the umpire was right.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I am a smart alleck. Cell Phone McGhee is the rat

No, you lied to him. You made up a rule and told him it was too late to change a call because it would be going against your team. Cell Phone McGhee might be pretty bad as an umpire but you are still a rat.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

However, if that is all he did, some guys would let it slide and be able to live happy and normal lives.

You must know different guys than I do.

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

You must know different guys than I do.

Are you saying you don't have thick skin? SDS, you have got to turn the other cheek on that one and let them jump on you for 2 innings before saying something to them. Remember, we have to do what we can to keep them in the game. Even if it means making ourselves look like a doormat to them. You have to go for that compliment on game management by the coaches to make yourself feel good.