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jwwashburn Wed Aug 05, 2009 08:50am

Mil @ LA Mota ejection-Vin has the call
 
Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | MIL@LAD: Mota is ejected after hitting Fielder - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

I love Vin Scully...also, Fielder's reaction is priceless. They are losing 17-4 and he gets drilled...he didn't even seem angry-just perplexed.

They play again tonight for the last time this season. Someone is getting hit.

Edited: OOPS! I guess the Prince was a little upset after all: http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/new...=.jsp&c_id=mil

Ump Rube Wed Aug 05, 2009 09:02am

"As if he had read the book yesterday..."

"Bam. Your outa' here. See' ya. Good bye. Adios"

Classic Scully.

jwwashburn Wed Aug 05, 2009 09:07am

I love this one, also...

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | Blake, Torre ejected for arguing balls and strikes - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

"And Gibson said, 'You're outta here with your fertilizer'"

DonInKansas Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:00am

"He changed it from horse to bull; it's still fertilizer."

I could listen to Scully call ballgames forever. And this is from an Oakland A's fan.

Kevin Finnerty Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:03am

Wow!

That Blake ejection was weak. Ejections like that make the umpire the main show. Go home and eject the dog or something.


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Originally Posted by DonInKansas (Post 618984)
"He changed it from horse to bull; it's still fertilizer."

I could listen to Scully call ballgames forever. And this is from an Oakland A's fan.

Vinny is the one thing in life that is virtually unchanged since I moved to Southern California in 1964. He is one of the game's gods. I can take or leave the Dodgers, but I watch them religiously merely to listen to Vinny. He is truly without a peer, and he's the only guy around that doesn't use--or need--a color commentator. What a joy it is not hearing a blathering ex-player like Joe Morgan stealing his time. And as an 80-year-old in his 61st year calling games, he hasn't lost much, I'll tell you that.

Vincent Edward Scully ... there will never be a greater voice of this great game.

jwwashburn Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:05am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 618985)
Wow!

That Blake ejection was weak. Ejections like that make the umpire the main show. Go home and eject the dog or something.

I would agree. If You are going to dump Blake, do it while he is on the field. But to do it from where he did it with Blake in the dugout made the umpire look ridiculous.

tcarilli Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:24am

Mocking is OK?
 
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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 618986)
I would agree. If You are going to dump Blake, do it while he is on the field. But to do it from where he did it with Blake in the dugout made the umpire look ridiculous.

Is it OK to mock an umpire as long as the player does it in the dugout? At 1:09 to 1:13 on the video one can see what Blake did to get tossed; he yelled at Gibson and mocked his punch-out mechanic. So, if a player openly mocks you (essentially to your face since it appears that he made sure Gibson was looking at him) as long as only his dugout, the other dugout, and the fans facing the dugout can see it; you let it go?

GA Umpire Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:42am

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Originally Posted by tcarilli (Post 618990)
Is it OK to mock an umpire as long as the player does it in the dugout? At 1:09 to 1:13 on the video one can see what Blake did to get tossed; he yelled at Gibson and mocked his punch-out mechanic. So, if a player openly mocks you (essentially to your face since it appears that he made sure Gibson was looking at him) as long as only his dugout, the other dugout, and the fans facing the dugout can see it; you let it go?

You are basing this on responses from those who are coaches first, umpires second.

I'll eject them if they are on the field or in the dugout where they feel like it is a safety zone. I have done it and will continue if some player wants to yell at me from the dugout. Too many have this idea in their head that it looks bad if the umpire tosses someone while that person is not in their face yelling at them.

If he is not man enough to say it to my face, why should I let him be coward enough to say it with his back to me or from his dugout?

Good EJ IMO.

Chris_Hickman Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:49am

Tony is right. Yes, he was back in the dugout, but you cannot let Blake demonstrate like that. Gibson kinda shoved it up Blake's a$$ with his mechanic but I would guess there is is probually some history between Blake and Gibson. That's the PRO game.

tcarilli Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:51am

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Originally Posted by GA Umpire (Post 618998)
You are basing this on responses from those who are coaches first, umpires second.

No, I don't think so. I am asking a question. Two posters claimed it was a weak ejection; so, I am asking if it is OK to mock an umpire under those circumstances. I am interested in exploring the circumstances under which it is and is not OK to mock an umpire.

tcarilli Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:53am

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Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman (Post 619001)
Gibson kinda shoved it up Blake's a$$ with his mechanic ... That's the PRO game.

Did he? Or was it just Gibson's strike three check swing mechanic? Or some of both? (I'd venture the last.)

Kevin Finnerty Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:53am

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Originally Posted by GA Umpire (Post 618998)
You are basing this on responses from those who are coaches first, umpires second.

Coaches first, umpires second? Thanks for the open insult to my/our integrity. I'm not permanently biased toward anything. That was a weak ejection from the standpoint of an umpire and only the standpoint of an umpire.

And if an umpire is an adversary of coaches, and has the scornful attitude that some have toward most or all coaches, perhaps they need to take a look in the mirror.

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Originally Posted by GA Umpire (Post 618998)
I'll eject them if they are on the field or in the dugout where they feel like it is a safety zone. I have done it and will continue if some player wants to yell at me from the dugout. Too many have this idea in their head that it looks bad if the umpire tosses someone while that person is not in their face yelling at them.

If he is not man enough to say it to my face, why should I let him be coward enough to say it with his back to me or from his dugout?

Good EJ IMO.

Man enough?? You need to show thicker skin. If one guy goes back to the dugout, and gives it for 30 seconds or so, you let it go. He didn't throw his bat, and he didn't even look back at you on the way to the dugout. Let him boil until he runs out of steam, and then keep doing your job rather than over-doing it.

InsideTheStripe Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:58am

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 618973)
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Edited: OOPS! I guess the Prince was a little upset after all: http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/new...=.jsp&c_id=mil

Prince trying to get into the Dodger's locker room after the game.

GA Umpire Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:02am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 619004)
...from the standpoint of an umpire and only the standpoint of an umpire.

Then, if this is true, you would agree that the EJ was warranted and earned. Nothing weak about it. What would have been weak would be not to eject at all. That would have been weak on Gibson's part, allowing a player to mouth off like that. And, obviously someone was watching b/c it was caught on tape. So, someone saw Blake mouthing off about the call.

So, where do you draw the line at someone yelling at you on the field? In your face yelling at you? Their back is to you? Before they get into the dugout? When they have their back to you in the dugout calling you anything and everything under the sun?

Just wondering where you draw the line and stop considering your EJ of someone as justified and becomes weak.

outathm Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:05am

As a lifelong Giants fan/Dodger hater (sorry for the redundancy) I still will stop my day to hear Vin Scully announce a game. He is one for the ages.


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