Mil @ LA Mota ejection-Vin has the call

[tcarilli]

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman

Gibson kinda shoved it up Blake's a$$ with his mechanic ... That's the PRO game.

Did he? Or was it just Gibson's strike three check swing mechanic? Or some of both? (I'd venture the last.)

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by tcarilli

Did he? Or was it just Gibson's strike three check swing mechanic? Or some of both? (I'd venture the last.)

He was showing him up. If he wants to signal a third strike with a big punch out, then he can take some long-distance crap for rubbing the hitter's nose in it. But he wants to give the big punch out and then act like it's a surprise when the hitter takes umbrage.

Originally Posted by GA Umpire

So, you will allow the chirping at you about "balls and strikes" or a play which happened 2 innings ago. Just as long as they do it from the dugout.

30 seconds of yelling at you about a play? You allow that much before you will consider anything?

That is not having thicker skin. That is being weak in front of everyone on the field, including your partner.

Coach first, umpire second. Take it as what you want. Insult? Well, you should have thicker skin then.

Did you ever play the game? Maybe you would see this type of situation differently.

And I do everything on a case-by-case basis. Thirty seconds is how long it takes in most cases. It's my way of managing a game in most cases. And I am very successful at my game management, and I am respected for my authority and control. It's not a sign of weakness, and I am not treated that way as a result. Quite the opposite, really.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

You never played the game did you?

Yikes...I'd expect to hear that from a coach, not another umpire.

Try to remember we're on the same team here folks.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by GA Umpire

College ball included. Thank you very much.

But, that really got a much more dignified answer than it deserved. And, no I don't see it differently. I see it as a player being a jerk and the umpire let him know he had enough.

Not very thick skinned, are you? And, yes, that is being weak to not want to eject b/c now every umpire behind you has to put up with that same BS until they decide to get rid of those same idiots that you chose not to. You put it off onto the next umpire to have to control the situation.

And, I say "Coach first, umpire second" based on many of your posts including ones on this thread. You are quick to defend the players/coaches and jump on the umpire as you are doing in this thread. Keep proving it with every post. You did with this one.

I truly, honestly did not mean it to sound that way, and if it did, which I can understand, I apologize whole-heartedly. I was just asking you to see that he left the field and earned the right to fume a little.

Sorry if it sounded like typical player-umpire blowhard posturing.

Originally Posted by tcarilli

Is there some history between Blake and Gibson? Is it possible that a strike three check swing fits into the category of called strike three by a plate umpire and therefore it is permissible to add a little flare to it?

No flair. But that's an individual's choice. This individual made the choice to take a chance at showing the guy up. He did; the guy didn't like it, and he gave a quick demonstration of it. The guy that showed him up also had a quick trigger. Bad combination.

Originally Posted by Welpe

Yikes...I'd expect to hear that from a coach, not another umpire.

Try to remember we're on the same team here folks.

I hear you; I didn't mean it quite the same way as it sounded. I just tend to think that if a guy goes to the dugout and doesn't point or taunt or do anything until he gets to the dugout, and then fumes a little, he's earned a little latitude for not showing the guy up in front of the world. I understand and accept that. And I do it without being or showing weakness.

[tcarilli]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

He was showing him up.

Is there some history between Blake and Gibson? Is it possible that a strike three check swing fits into the category of called strike three by a plate umpire and therefore it is permissible to add a little flare to it?

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Did you ever play the game? Maybe you would see this type of situation differently.

College ball included. Thank you very much.

But, that really got a much more dignified answer than it deserved. And, no I don't see it differently. I see it as a player being a jerk and the umpire let him know he had enough.

Not very thick skinned, are you? And, yes, that is being weak to not want to eject b/c now every umpire behind you has to put up with that same BS until they decide to get rid of those same idiots that you chose not to. You put it off onto the next umpire to have to control the situation.

And, I say "Coach first, umpire second" based on many of your posts including ones on this thread. You are quick to defend the players/coaches and jump on the umpire as you are doing in this thread. Keep proving it with every post. You did with this one.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

If he wants to signal a third strike with a big punch out, then he can take some long-distance crap for rubbing the hitter's nose in it. But he wants to give the big punch out and then act like it's a surprise when the hitter takes umbrage.

That is the dumbest thing I've ever read...he was punched out, he has the right to act like that haha Go back to telling us which umpires are mailing it in.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by LDUB

That is the dumbest thing I've ever read...he was punched out, he has the right to act like that haha Go back to telling us which umpires are mailing it in.

You run your games your way, I will continue to run mine my highly successful way. I treat every situation differently, and in that situation, with grown men playing at the highest level, I would have let the guy blow off some steam for a little while, instead of running him from 160 feet for saying crap I couldn't even hear.

(I love the way 30 seconds became two innings earlier.)

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

You run your games your way, I will continue to run mine my highly successful way. I treat every situation differently, and in that situation, with grown men playing at the highest level, I would have let the guy blow off some steam for a little while, instead of running him from 160 feet for saying crap I couldn't even hear.

(I love the way 30 seconds became two innings earlier.)

If the guy is just blowing off steam, fine. The minute he starts mimicking me with visuals that the folks in the stands can see, he's done.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

If the guy is just blowing off steam, fine. The minute he starts mimicking me with visuals that the folks in the stands can see, he's done.

So the fake umpires from the BLue Jays games are not welcome at any game you're workin'?

[zm1283]

Good ejection IMO. For the record, Gibson is not the only MLB umpire that I've seen use that kind of punch out for a check swing on strike three.

I don't see why the crowd has to see something for it to be ground for ejection. Do you let them do whatever they want as long as the crowd doesn't see it but you can?

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

I would have let the guy blow off some steam for a little while, instead of running him from 160 feet for saying crap I couldn't even hear.

You need to stop arguing about this; you don't even understand why he was ejected.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Oooooohhhh, I don't?

Okay, how's this?

Gibson gave the guy this big punch-out, and then stares at him until he mimics the punch-out FROM THE FLOOR OF THE INSIDE OF THE DUGOUT, and the thin-skinned Gibson, who can't tolerate when somebody he shows up shows him up FROM THE FLOOR OF THE INSIDE OF THE DUGOUT, so he tosses him from 160 feet.

It's weak.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

You run your games your way, I will continue to run mine my highly successful way.

Excellent advice. Why not extend that to you run your games your way, and ML umpires will run games their way?

Then, at the end of the day, let's see who goes farther in umpiring.

[LMan]

I think this thread is now the one full of fertilizer.....