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Old Sat Apr 15, 2006, 05:07pm
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It's not a violation of union by-laws for a non member to cross a picket line. That wouldn't make much sense as a non union individual isn't bound by a collective bargaining agreement. If ,after the AMLU's case is heard by the NLRB, the union is de-certified, then it still wouldn't be a violation for former members to cross either.

Even if a union member were to cross there could be no legal reprecussions against them. They would simply lose their membership or be forced to pay a fine to stay a member in some unions. I can't say for sure though as I've not read their contract. In our union the only way to take away someones union membership is for non payment of dues.
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Old Sun Apr 16, 2006, 01:56am
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It's not a violation of union by-laws for a non member to cross a picket line. That wouldn't make much sense as a non union individual isn't bound by a collective bargaining agreement. If ,after the AMLU's case is heard by the NLRB, the union is de-certified, then it still wouldn't be a violation for former members to cross either.

Even if a union member were to cross there could be no legal reprecussions against them. They would simply lose their membership or be forced to pay a fine to stay a member in some unions. I can't say for sure though as I've not read their contract. In our union the only way to take away someones union membership is for non payment of dues.
That must be one heck of a union you're in. No wonder everybody is down on unions these days. Seems that it's in your contract that you can sit around 24/7 posting on umpire forums. Must be good work if you can get it. Wait a minute, nobody ever could have a job that good. I get it now. You don't have a job. You were fired for posting on umpire forums 24/7. Work just getting the way of your first real love. Oh well, at least your happy. Starving, but happy.
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Old Sun Apr 16, 2006, 08:50am
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I don't recall tugging on your chain, PWL. Why the insult against the union I still belong to? You must be thinking, hey, I can make another childish insulting post because it's Easter and it won't be deleted for a while. Will you just grow up already.


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Old Sun Apr 16, 2006, 12:47pm
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I don't recall tugging on your chain, PWL. Why the insult against the union I still belong to? You must be thinking, hey, I can make another childish insulting post because it's Easter and it won't be deleted for a while. Will you just grow up already.


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Is there anything you don't know everything about? Do like Lard Steve and put me on your IGNORE LIST. That's what's it there for. Take responsibility for once in your life for your obsessive complusive disorder.

Go spend some time with your family and stop being an "Internet Charlie".

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Old Sun Apr 16, 2006, 01:30pm
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I've said it before, just recently. I would put you on my ignore list but then what fun would that be. I would miss you tripping all over youself as you give your nonsensical interpretations and outright wrong rulings. I don't know why it bothers you that someone else knows more than you do, as this has to be common place for you in your everyday life. That is, unless it's about your inate ability to copy song lyrics. I'd say you have that down to an art form.

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Old Sun Apr 16, 2006, 03:25pm
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That is, unless it's about your inate ability to copy song lyrics. I'd say you have that down to an art form.
No, Tim, he even gets those wrong. In "Oh, Well" it is "stick by me and I'll be your guiding hand." He missed that one too.
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Old Sun Apr 16, 2006, 03:35pm
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Mick, Brad.

Make Lard Steve and Haagy stop picking on me. I think I'm going to have a nervous breakdown if they don't stop it. There are big tears all over my keyboard as I type. I think I will have to start my own website where everybody treats me nice and I can tell them what to say and do. So there.
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Old Sun Apr 16, 2006, 03:52pm
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Gentleman, this is simply an exercise in the law of supply and demand. I wholeheartedly believe our MiLB umpire brothers are grossly under compensated for the service they provide. They don't have a contract and have decided to stand together and fight for better. Their problem, and what I think is the problem for umpires in general, is that there are too many people willing to provide the service for the lower wage. These people must realize they will be afforded no protection of a union and are simply "at-will" employees. Same as any employee not in a union. They may endure treatment even worse than the union members by baseball management because there is nothing or nobody to support them. I applaud the striking union members for standing up for a noble cause. My fear is that they are going to be defeated and any hopes for any of them to make it to the major leagues will end prematurely. My hope is that this brings an entire new structure to the system where being a minor league umpire is a career that is fairly compensated, not just an abused apprenticeship to a snow balls chance at the bigs.

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