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Old Sat Jan 29, 2005, 02:34pm
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Originally posted by Manny A
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Originally posted by mcrowder
You are right - 5.07 doesn't apply here. If it did, you could also make the argument that the defense is now the offense, and can't make the 4th out appeal (which we know is false). Since the defense is still the defense in cases where they can make an appeal and are still on the field, the offense is by default, still the offense.
So, you're advocating that the retired B1 may still legally return and touch first base to preclude being called out on a fourth-out appeal?

I would argue that, by 5.07, the defense is no longer the defense, just like the offense is no longer the offense. However, there is one exception to 5.07: by rule 7.10(d), the defense is still the defense for the strict purpose of recording a fourth-out appeal. Of course, they lose that status once they leave fair territory. But nothing in 7.10(d) provides the same exception of 5.07 to the offense.

Manny
NO, he's saying that the runner can't return to correct the baserunning error 'CAUSE HE'S ALREADY OUT, for cripe sake. Think horses, not zebras: you don't need any complex interpretation of 5.07 or any other rule: he's out, so he can't lawfully run bases anymore. This ain't all that hard, folks!
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