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Old Sat Jan 29, 2005, 09:44pm
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Originally posted by Roger Greene
I found the cite for the BR needing to continue to advance to first after the 3rd out.

See 2005 BRD, Section 3. Re: OBR- Official interp 4-3 "If the defense gains a third out during play, but the batter runner has not yet reached first, the defense may play on him at first for an advantageous fourth out." (Mike Fitzpatrick, Director PBUC, 1/17/2001)

I would argue, absent a cite that indicated otherwise, that if a runner who has not been put out must continue to and touch 1st to prevent an appeal after a 3rd out has been made, then a runner could attempt to correct a baserunning error before an appeal is made for a 4th out.
Roger, that's a non sequitur. The rule allows the defense to continue to play after the third out. The rationale for that is that the offense made an error prior to the third out. The rule permits the defense to capitalize on that error; it does not permit the offense the opportunity to rectify the error.

This thinking leads to a general answer to the question of the thread up to this point: why is the defense but not the offense permitted to play on after the third out? The answer is, I think, that the offense made the error, and the defense should not be prevented from taking advantage of that error because they played well elsewhere on the field (by recording the third out).

I would not allow BR to go back to first or to continue to first. The "defense may play on him" does not entail that he may do anything to prevent that play.
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