Dropped 3rd Strike - Throw to 1st

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by xtremeump

KISS, F2 can pick up a D3K anywhere and set up foul and throw to F3 on the colored bag.

Set up in foul territory on the 1st base side and, yes, it makes a difference.

[xtremeump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Set up in foul territory on the 1st base side and, yes, it makes a difference.

Thank you for finishing my statement !! I thought that people on here would understand that if F2 was in Foul territory on the third base side, the F2 would not attempt a throw to the colored base ? Sorry for not being clear on a very simple play.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by xtremeump

Thank you for finishing my statement !! I thought that people on here would understand that if F2 was in Foul territory on the third base side, the F2 would not attempt a throw to the colored base ? Sorry for not being clear on a very simple play.

I agree it should be obvious, but the first year this came out, that seemed to be a point many umpire's just couldn't grasp. Quite a few couldn't grasp the idea of the ball coming from anywhere besides from the foul side of 1BL

[LIUmp]

U3K, ball lands in RIGHT handed batters box in foul ground. Left handed batter running down to first, left handed catcher pics up the ball. F3 is straddling both orange and white bags. BR running toward orange. Ball is thrown to white. Ball arrives half second before BR. There's a collision, chest to chest, between F3 and BR.

Call?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by LIUmp

U3K, ball lands in RIGHT handed batters box in foul ground. Left handed batter running down to first, left handed catcher pics up the ball. F3 is straddling both orange and white bags. BR running toward orange. Ball is thrown to white. Ball arrives half second before BR. There's a collision, chest to chest, between F3 and BR.

Call?

Out.

Assuming non-malicious, a warning that offense is responsible to avoid collisions.

[LIUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Out.

Assuming non-malicious, a warning that offense is responsible to avoid collisions.

yes, non-malicious. F3 standing on/over both bases didn't lead to this? Doesn't the rule state that F3 must use the white and BR must go to the colored base in this situation? The BR was doing that. The F3 was not. She was in the way.

Just asking...

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by LIUmp

yes, non-malicious. F3 standing on/over both bases didn't lead to this? Doesn't the rule state that F3 must use the white and BR must go to the colored base in this situation? The BR was doing that. The F3 was not. She was in the way.

Just asking...

No part of what you described included the runner being hindered before she was out. As long as F3 was on white, nothing requires her to be exclusively on white, unless doing so hinder/impedes the BR.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Out.

Assuming non-malicious, a warning that offense is responsible to avoid collisions.

I don't go around throwing out warnings unless I am actually going to take action on a repeated act.

Here, you have a defender standing where they don't belong and your going to warn a the offensive team because there was contact?

For that matter, why don't you warn the defensive team not to set up where they don't belong?

Since you issued a warning, if that same exact play happens again, please tell us what your call is going to be.