PU Hold while BU(s) position or Both back in simulataneously

[wadeintothem]

I am somewhat of a discussion with a few bigs as to the proceedure of moving to position after a play.

I have been taught and have always thought PU holds while the BU(s) move to positon then the PU goes to position. I call this releasing the PU.


He claims the following, which seems to me makes sense; however, thats not how I've done it

You do not have to wait until the base umpire gets to the respective position and then the plate umpire moves to the respective position. When moving to the next position have eyes facing into the infield and the home plate umpire moves also with eyes facing in also at the same time. You waste a lot of time when added up. the game is NEVER slowed down by the umpires in the game.

So basically, everyone is backing into position simulataneously.


I couldnt find anything in the ump manual which makes a policy on this ASA official, so what say you, how are you taught, how do you do it?

[kcg NC2Ablu]

DUMB.... plate wait for base to move to posistion. then plate turns hustles back . This way eyes are on the field at all times. The reason we dont want people turn from the field is because they will miss the look back or any other potential conduct that we should see. so one watches then the other... then get to the next pitch.

who ever told you to back into posistion is lazy. If you hustle as the BU and then hustle as the PU you wont waste any time.

[wadeintothem]

He is a PAC 10 confererence and ASA FP ISF/Elite.. this is no slouch joe blow umpire, which is why I am here wondering what you guys think before I take this on...

[RKBUmp]

Everything I have been taught is that the plate ump holds while the base ump moves into position, make eye contact and then plate ump moves.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

DUMB.... plate wait for base to move to posistion. then plate turns hustles back . This way eyes are on the field at all times. The reason we dont want people turn from the field is because they will miss the look back or any other potential conduct that we should see. so one watches then the other... then get to the next pitch.

who ever told you to back into posistion is lazy. If you hustle as the BU and then hustle as the PU you wont waste any time.

Or the PU can just kill the ball and everyone hustles into position and move on with the game.

[topper]

Absolutely nothing wrong with PU keeping an eye on the ball/runners while moving back to the plate as BU hustles to new position. One pair of eyes should be enough, however. Can't imagine why he would recommend BU watching as well.

[ronald]

Originally Posted by topper

Absolutely nothing wrong with PU keeping an eye on the ball/runners while moving back to the plate as BU hustles to new position. One pair of eyes should be enough, however. Can't imagine why he would recommend BU watching as well.

1. four eyes are better than two
2. multiple runners

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by ronald

1. four eyes are better than two
2. multiple runners

COP OUT ... if you cant see the whole field while you HOLD and wait for your partner then get a new job this one isnt for you. What happens when you have multiple runners on and one of them leaves early in the two man system? if you can see that then you can hold and wait for your partner. I dont care who it is who told you that wade I can tell you the ISF and NCAA post season umpires ( one of which is both and worked the dish on the gold final) would quite literally crap their pants if they saw someone try to do this with them. BY THE WAY that is not a mechanic in the NCAA Softball Umpires manual so I dont know where this guy is getting that from ... SOOOOOOOOooooooOOOO in conclusion ... it doesnt matter that he is a pac 10 umpire.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Or the PU can just kill the ball and everyone hustles into position and move on with the game.

*gasp*

Sinner!