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Old Wed May 13, 2009, 04:27pm
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..."You can never be wrong for making a call supported by the book"....
hmmmm.... whatchasayboutdis, wade?
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Old Wed May 13, 2009, 05:26pm
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hmmmm.... whatchasayboutdis, wade?
Ha!

The WORST calls are sometimes supported by the rule book
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Old Wed May 13, 2009, 06:22pm
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The bottom line here is I need to get fired from my 8 to 5 job so I can collect unemployment and start my own business. Then I can stop only working rec. and travel, and start working higher level ball.

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Old Wed May 13, 2009, 10:07pm
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Okay, that's more like it.

Yes, I do believe the LBR is no longer a necessity. Instead of providing control of the runners to keep the game moving (OMG, a speed up rule!), it has become a tool for a defensive strategy. The rule and it's application has gotten out of control.

I agree with Tom that there should be a more definitive demarcation of when a player is a pitcher or fielder.
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Old Thu May 14, 2009, 09:59am
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Yes, I do believe the LBR is no longer a necessity.
Well, I don't know you could make the case it was ever a necessity, but it is very helpful at younger ages, because otherwise the same silly stuff that now goes on between catchers and runners would just move to between pitchers and runners. OC's would dare pitchers to try to pick off the runner, betting that the runners will be able to advance many more times than they are tagged out.

I do think that at the upper levels, the rule is largely superfluous.

Do you keep a rule that mainly helps at the lower levels of the game? I say "yes", but I would be very open to modifications as suggested: the LBR does not go into effect until the ongoing play from a batted ball is over.
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Old Thu May 14, 2009, 10:56am
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Well, I don't know you could make the case it was ever a necessity, but it is very helpful at younger ages, because otherwise the same silly stuff that now goes on between catchers and runners would just move to between pitchers and runners. OC's would dare pitchers to try to pick off the runner, betting that the runners will be able to advance many more times than they are tagged out.

I do think that at the upper levels, the rule is largely superfluous.

Do you keep a rule that mainly helps at the lower levels of the game? I say "yes", but I would be very open to modifications as suggested: the LBR does not go into effect until the ongoing play from a batted ball is over.
I think it would be more to control the coaches who still think the rules they played in the sand lot 20 years before still apply
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Old Thu May 14, 2009, 03:02pm
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I think it would be more to control the coaches who still think the rules they played in the sand lot 20 years before still apply
Or worse... those who use Tim McCarver as their coaching expert!
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