Does the run score or is it a timming play?

[Tru_in_Blu]

Hi Wade,

I understand KR's argument. I'm just pointing out that there is the possibility of a loophole in that a BR gets an awarded base which should/would force other runners to advance [without liability].

I think the other 2 associations mentioned {NCAA and NFHS} have a better take on this situation than ASA. That said, however, if I encounter the situation while wearing my ASA cap, I will invoke the KR logic.

Ted

[IRISHMAFIA]

I believe this question was on an NCAA test at some level. If the information afforded me was correct, those in a position of interpretating NCAA rules acknowledged that the runner was beyond the base and possibly in jeopardy, but score the run anyway.

And that is fine. And when asked the question by a fellow umpire, I hesitated because I knew where it was going. Is one interpretation more correct than the other? No, because that is the way each wants their rules applied.

Will they ever be the same? Maybe, but I would say it is more likely ASA would move before NCAA would ever give it a thought.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Hi Wade,

I understand KR's argument. I'm just pointing out that there is the possibility of a loophole in that a BR gets an awarded base which should/would force other runners to advance [without liability].

I think the other 2 associations mentioned {NCAA and NFHS} have a better take on this situation than ASA. That said, however, if I encounter the situation while wearing my ASA cap, I will invoke the KR logic.

Ted

I think ASA has it correct. What hasn't been clearly stated, IMHO, thus far is that R1 is allowed to advance without liability to be put out, but it is not R1 that is being put out. It is R2. And R2 is protected only to third base. So when she overran third she was in jeopardy. ASA's rule is very clear to me. No run shall score if a live ball tag play occurs before the runner crossing home. The FED has it wrong in my opinion. How can a run score when they didn't touch home before the third out of the inning? I know in FED they can because they said so, but I believe ASA's logic on this is more sound. But I will call it the way the governing rules for the game I'm officiating require me to.