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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 10:32am
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Would it be possible for the defense to go for the 4th out of the inning to get the force out at 2nd and nullify the runs due to the force ?
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 10:44am
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Would it be possible for the defense to go for the 4th out of the inning to get the force out at 2nd and nullify the runs due to the force ?
I think a fourth out is only recognized in an appeal situation, correct?
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 11:57am
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What force out at 2nd? The BR is retired, so R3 is no longer forced to 2nd and can retreat to 1st, no?
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 01:48pm
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What force out at 2nd? The BR is retired, so R3 is no longer forced to 2nd and can retreat to 1st, no?
Yes..........
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Old Thu Apr 12, 2007, 11:06am
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What force out at 2nd? The BR is retired, so R3 is no longer forced to 2nd and can retreat to 1st, no?

Wait...

The defense did not catch the ball, and therefore the BR was not retired. BR passed R3 on the basepath after gaining possession of 1B (meaning R3 no longer had right of possession to 1B). That means the runs count so long as the BR did not pass R3 on the BP before both runs scored. That's how I see and read the OP's post.
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2007, 01:26pm
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Would it be possible for the defense to go for the 4th out of the inning to get the force out at 2nd and nullify the runs due to the force ?
There is no fourth out available, nor is there a force out available.
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