End of Wisconsin - Arizona State game

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

He didn't offer any real explanation. At least not one that's been shared by anyone.

I guess what I would have liked to have seen happen would be a review to determine that the kneeldown was properly executed followed by the ball being spotted for play with the clock situation fixed.

I understand that seems like you're giving an advantage to the offense, but there was plenty of time on the clock, and it was the defense's actions that caused the clock to run out, and they shouldn't be allowed to benefit that way.

You do not have a clue what what explanation was given or if it was satisfactory. Even if the coach shared what he was told, that does not mean it would not be incomplete.

And you also sound like a fanboy. For one if they did a review, the other side would be highly upset if Wisconsin could set up and kick a successful field goal. There was time enough to "clock" the ball and be able to kick the ball but from the right hash and the clock would have been stopped. And if you cannot do that, then you need a better kicker from that distance if getting the ball in the middle is so important. I would think kickers practice enough from different angles. You are in the Big Ten for God's sake, not Division 3.

Again, still not outraged based on your information.

Peace

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You do not have a clue what what explanation was given or if it was satisfactory. Even if the coach shared what he was told, that does not mean it would not be incomplete.

And you also sound like a fanboy. For one if they did a review, the other side would be highly upset if Wisconsin could set up and kick a successful field goal. There was time enough to "clock" the ball and be able to kick the ball but from the right hash and the clock would have been stopped. And if you cannot do that, then you need a better kicker from that distance if getting the ball in the middle is so important. I would think kickers practice enough from different angles. You are in the Big Ten for God's sake, not Division 3.

Again, still not outraged based on your information.

Peace

None of that is relevant. It's good strategy to set up an easier kick. The ONLY reason it "failed" is because the officials let ASU hold the ball hostage without consequence.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

None of that is relevant. It's good strategy to set up an easier kick. The ONLY reason it "failed" is because the officials let ASU hold the ball hostage without consequence.

Actually it is relevant. When you do unusual things, you have to expect that the officials are going to handle it properly. That is why officials ask before the game, "Do you have any unusual plays we need to officiating?" Of course this is not one of those plays that will be discussed, but if you do something no one has seen or you did not coach properly, then same on you. Why would the QB not down the ball, then keep the ball in his hand and give it to the official? I know that want to move fast all the time hand the ball to the officials immediately after they are tackled or downed. Sorry, this is all relevant if you want an opportunity to do what you want to do with a kick. And Wisconsin of all places had a rules change based off of their actions in the Rose Bowl. Shame on them for being so unprepared.

Peace

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually it is relevant. When you do unusual things, you have to expect that the officials are going to handle it properly. That is why officials ask before the game, "Do you have any unusual plays we need to officiating?" Of course this is not one of those plays that will be discussed, but if you do something no one has seen or you did not coach properly, then same on you. Why would the QB not down the ball, then keep the ball in his hand and give it to the official? I know that want to move fast all the time hand the ball to the officials immediately after they are tackled or downed. Sorry, this is all relevant if you want an opportunity to do what you want to do with a kick. And Wisconsin of all places had a rules change based off of their actions in the Rose Bowl. Shame on them for being so unprepared.

Peace

I would say it was the officials who were unprepared. Wisconsin was at the line and ready to play.

The officials then proceeded to run off the field instead of fixing their own errors. The officials might as well have been in their cars in the parking lot as the last 15 seconds ticked off the clock. That's what's unacceptable. That's why they deserve to be suspended.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

I would say it was the officials who were unprepared. Wisconsin was at the line and ready to play.

The officials then proceeded to run off the field instead of fixing their own errors. The officials might as well have been in their cars in the parking lot as the last 15 seconds ticked off the clock. That's what's unacceptable. That's why they deserve to be suspended.

Once again, every official here has said this was an unusual way to run a play. I would agree the officials were unprepared for such a stupid play to be run. And yes they could have done things better, but Wisconsin could have helped. They choose to run a dumb play that allowed confusion. Running a play to get in the middle is stupid and always has been. Maybe now teams will just kick the ball form where they are and move on.

Peace

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Originally Posted by hbk314

I would say it was the officials who were unprepared. Wisconsin was at the line and ready to play.

The officials then proceeded to run off the field instead of fixing their own errors. The officials might as well have been in their cars in the parking lot as the last 15 seconds ticked off the clock. That's what's unacceptable. That's why they deserve to be suspended.

Apparently you know all about being prepared as an official. How many games have you worked at the FBS level, D2 level, D3 level, High School level, or peewee level?

[hbk314]

They let an ASU player hold the ball hostage for 7 seconds on the ground without consequence. There is nothing else to be said.

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Thought so.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by hbk314

They let an ASU player hold the ball hostage for 7 seconds on the ground without consequence. There is nothing else to be said.

What consequence? It was a loose ball, and the ASU player reasonably thought it was a fumble. What punishment do you suggest? There's no rule that allows the clock to be stopped if this wasn't an actual fumble, though, so I'm honestly not sure what the officials should have done.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by hbk314

They let an ASU player hold the ball hostage for 7 seconds on the ground without consequence. There is nothing else to be said.

If there is nothing to be said why did you ask for responses? I'm still confused as to your goal for posting. I've yet to see you state that this is something you pregame with your crew to make sure you handle end of game situations correctly.