Washington team returns blocked field-goal

[tjones1]

Ouch.

Y! SPORTS

[bigjohn]

I can not believe there was no IW on that play! Great job, Officials!!!

[CT1]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

I can not believe there was no IW on that play! Great job, Officials!!!

I'm surprised, since the R had his whistle in his mouth when the play started.

[MD Longhorn]

Fun play. Not sure anyone I know would have blown his whistle on that play, and R usually spits it out immediately upon a snap. R very very rarely has the play-killing whistle on a kick play, and would not be in the habit of needing to blow one, so not likely an IW here.

[bigjohn]

I have seen them forget it was a try and blow id dead as soon as blocked.

ART. 7 . . . When any scrimmage kick is out of bounds between the goal lines
or becomes dead inbounds between the goal lines while no player is in possession, or inbounds anywhere while opponents are in joint possession, the ball is
awarded to R. Following an out-of-bounds kick, the ball is put in play at the
inbounds spot unless R chooses a spot of first touching.

I think we had a dead ball here!

There was more delay than the video shows, the ball laid there a bit longer.

[MD Longhorn]

Fair enough...

Although how can you say the ball laid there longer than it appears. It's video.

[bigjohn]

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[MD Longhorn]

Ah - that explains that.

Even a better play - I hope this one gets used for training.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

I think we had a dead ball here!

Nice try.

The crew knew it was still a live ball.

[bigjohn]

The football lay on the field for about five seconds. Then the River coaches began screaming.

"It's live! Pick it up!"

Dead ball

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Dead ball

Based on what interpretation?

This isn't a ball coming to rest beyond the NZ with nobody from the receiving team anywhere near the ball. (they are the only one who can advance the ball)

This is a ball behind the NZ that can be advanced by either team, or legally passed / kicked by the kicking team. There were plenty of K players within 3 yards of the ball, all eligible to pick it up and advance it.

Great job by the crew..... especially the guys who covered the goal line.

[voiceoflg]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Dead ball

Help out a broadcaster here. How long does a live ball have to be untouched before it becomes dead?

[asdf]

Originally Posted by voiceoflg

Help out a broadcaster here. How long does a live ball have to be untouched before it becomes dead?

Until the covering official deems it dead.

The fact that it could have been recovered and advanced by either team (a receiving team player initially tried to recover it, but made a bad decision and didn't secure it) means you give it more time than when a kick beyond the NZ comes to rest.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by voiceoflg

Help out a broadcaster here. How long does a live ball have to be untouched before it becomes dead?

It's not a matter of time. It's when it becomes obvious no one will.

Example - punted ball rolling to a rest, no receiving team players anywhere near the play, several kicking team players around the ball. When the ball stops and no one reaches over to touch it, kill the play. They can't just sit there looking at the ball to let time roll off the clock.

On THIS play - where either team can pick it up, you've got to wait until it's completely obvious that no one is going to pick it up. Like - the kicking team leaves the field like the receiving team did.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Dead ball

That's only a dead ball to the team on the losing end of this play.