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Old Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:07pm
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Ohio State Rules Interpreter Bruce Mauer says.



Check Page 58, Rule 7-2-6: says "without movement of hands". I would probably warn them the first time, then penalize them afterwards, unless they simulated the snap or drew B to encroach. I do not know if I have ever seen that type of mvt with receivers before. The key is they can do it initially, but must remain "without movement" for 1 sec before the snap.

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then after I pointed out that all had been stationary for 1 second he replied this:

Legal play as long as they all set for 1 second without mvt prior to the snap.

Bruce

So there is the answer in Ohio.
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Old Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:26pm
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Legal play as long as they all set for 1 second without mvt prior to the snap.

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So there is the answer in Ohio.
And everywhere else. As everyone but you has been saying.
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Old Wed Sep 12, 2012, 09:41am
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Ohio State Rules Interpreter Bruce Mauer says.



Check Page 58, Rule 7-2-6: says "without movement of hands". I would probably warn them the first time, then penalize them afterwards, unless they simulated the snap or drew B to encroach. I do not know if I have ever seen that type of mvt with receivers before. The key is they can do it initially, but must remain "without movement" for 1 sec before the snap.

Bruce

then after I pointed out that all had been stationary for 1 second he replied this:

Legal play as long as they all set for 1 second without mvt prior to the snap.

Bruce

So there is the answer in Ohio.
Which is exactly what everyone but you has been saying.

When you read the rule, you insert "immediately" into the phrase "prior to the snap." The rule is not remain stationary for at least one second immediately prior to the snap.
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Old Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:09am
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So basically after everyone has set for one second all backs could do jumping jacks prior to the snap as long as the officials deem this not to be a false start, all movement is ok except motion, which is not defined and simulating a start??
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Old Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:17am
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John why do you always insist on dragging things into the absurd?
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Old Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:25am
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What is the definition of motion?
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Old Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:35am
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What is the definition of motion?
What is the intent of the rule? Have you ever seen anyone doing jumping jacks on a football field while getting into formation?

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mo'tion n 1a moving;change of position 2 gesture 3 proposal made at a meeting - v. make, or direct by, gestures. Webser's Dictionary

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Old Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:46am
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What is the definition of motion?
Different from the definition of ILLEGAL motion.
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Old Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:02pm
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Define illegal motion then.
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