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Old Sat Nov 06, 2010, 09:23am
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Not to stir the pot any, but Nebraska School Activities Association tells us that when ball is on opposite hash wings should be on the numbers.

So maybe when in Rome one should do as the Romans do.
An exception that proves a rule. Likely a state run by a 40 year official who doesn't think that change is a good thing. I saw the same thing in LA in basketball where until recently they insisted on having the center official opposite the table (and I have no idea if this has changed).

I worked 2 games 3-man this season, neither by choice. Told the wings to stay off the field as usual and that I would run up and spot the football between plays -- if the play was in the side zone, that wing could choose to pinch in and spot the ball if they chose. I ran more, but it's better (IMO) than lining up R-L-U and better than having the wings compromise their field coverage just to get a football spotted.
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Old Sat Nov 06, 2010, 10:00am
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An exception that proves a rule. Likely a state run by a 40 year official who doesn't think that change is a good thing. .
This may come as a shock to you Rich, but somehow officiating football actually survived (some might even say "thrived") before you came along. Your attitude, related to 40 year officials, might have a tad more credibility if you waited to see if you actually lasted that long first.
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Old Sat Nov 06, 2010, 10:21am
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This may come as a shock to you Rich, but somehow officiating football actually survived (some might even say "thrived") before you came along. Your attitude, related to 40 year officials, might have a tad more credibility if you waited to see if you actually lasted that long first.
I've got 24 years in this racket. The difference between me and other 24 year officials is that I'm willing to embrace change that's put in place to make us better. When I started as a wing official, we worked well onto the field and tried to stay with or ahead of the play. We worried so much about getting the spot of the ball we missed a ton of stuff around the ball carrier. It's so much easier for us now to work (1) off the field and (2) slightly behind the play (and rely on cross-field mechanics rather than staying even with the football) that it's a wonder people didn't think of it before.

Good officials evolve. Those that don't or won't evolve should get out of the way. They *certainly* shouldn't be setting policy with respect to mechanics and then tell other people that's the only right way to work.

(I managed to write 2 full paragraphs and only used one comma. I'll try harder next time.)
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Old Sat Nov 06, 2010, 11:46am
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I've got 24 years in this racket. Good officials evolve. Those that don't or won't evolve should get out of the way. They *certainly* shouldn't be setting policy with respect to mechanics and then tell other people that's the only right way to work.

(I managed to write 2 full paragraphs and only used one comma. I'll try harder next time.)
I don't think there's anything remotely indicated by what I've tried to suggest that comes anyway near telling anyone, "that's the only right way to work.[/B], although I do get exactly that impression from your tone.

Officials in other areas often have tendencies to "evolve" as they decide is best for them to evolve, sometimes for good, sometimes not. Sometimes people with 20+ years evlove at a different pace than others, which sometimes is good, sometimes not.

By the way, what do commas have to to do with football?
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Old Sat Nov 06, 2010, 04:39pm
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I don't think there's anything remotely indicated by what I've tried to suggest that comes anyway near telling anyone, "that's the only right way to work.[/B], although I do get exactly that impression from your tone.

Officials in other areas often have tendencies to "evolve" as they decide is best for them to evolve, sometimes for good, sometimes not. Sometimes people with 20+ years evlove at a different pace than others, which sometimes is good, sometimes not.

By the way, what do commas have to to do with football?
Word count: 89
Comma count: 7

To be direct (you don't seem to pick up subtlety very well), you have a tendency to write with an unusually high number of commas. Many of them are not needed. If any officials are grammar teachers you provide many examples of incorrect punctuation for them to use in their classes. Not that it has anything to do with your ability to officiate.
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Old Sat Nov 06, 2010, 10:29pm
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Word count: 89
Comma count: 7

To be direct (you don't seem to pick up subtlety very well), you have a tendency to write with an unusually high number of commas. Many of them are not needed. If any officials are grammar teachers you provide many examples of incorrect punctuation for them to use in their classes. Not that it has anything to do with your ability to officiate.
Sister Mary Alice told me that in the 4th grade. Thanks for the update. (apparently sublety is not one of your strong suits either.)

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Old Sat Nov 06, 2010, 11:11pm
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If any officials are grammar teachers you provide many examples of incorrect punctuation for them to use in their classes. Not that it has anything to do with your ability to officiate.
What about sentence fragment examples?

Also, does he provide examples if no officials are grammar teachers?
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i've got 24 years in this racket. The difference between me and other 24 year officials is that i'm willing to embrace change that's put in place to make us better. When i started as a wing official, we worked well onto the field and tried to stay with or ahead of the play. We worried so much about getting the spot of the ball we missed a ton of stuff around the ball carrier. It's so much easier for us now to work (1) off the field and (2) slightly behind the play (and rely on cross-field mechanics rather than staying even with the football) that it's a wonder people didn't think of it before.

Good officials evolve. Those that don't or won't evolve should get out of the way. They *certainly* shouldn't be setting policy with respect to mechanics and then tell other people that's the only right way to work.

(i managed to write 2 full paragraphs and only used one comma. I'll try harder next time.)
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