Penalty enforcement FED

[stegenref]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

1st and 2.

After a liveball penalty is enforced the down will be the same as the down in which the penalty occured unless:

Can someone cite a reference for this statement?

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Although the original question wasn't specifically about a facemask foul, and in practice a 5 yard facemask foul would most normally apply to a live ball situation, there is absolutely nothing that restricts such a foul to live ball only.

The OP wasn't specifically about a face mask foul?!! That's exactly what it was about. A 5 yard face mask penalty enforcement. Man, you need to work on your reading and comprehension!

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

First and 10

RB runs for three yards, right at the end of the run there is a 5 yard facemask penalty.

Question: After the penalty is enforced, is it 1st down and 2 or is it 2nd down and 2? Or neither? Why?

Thanks guys. Still trying to completely grasp penalty enforcement...it's not as easy as I once thought it was.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by jaybird

The OP wasn't specifically about a face mask foul?!! That's exactly what it was about. A 5 yard face mask penalty enforcement. Man, you need to work on your reading and comprehension!

Seems to me Jaybird, the purpose of the question was about down and distance and the penalty being a facemask was totally incidental. What you need to do is get that really stupid chip off your shoulder, it keeps forcing you to make yourself appear as a petty bead counter. The point of my original comment, which obviously escaped your superior powers of observation, was simply that although dead ball face mask penalties are usually of the 15 yard variety, there is NOTHING (rule wise) that precludes calling a 5 yarder.

[jaybird]

..your superior powers of observation..

Thanks for the compliment, Alf!

[jaybird]

5 yard facemask
How often do you call this?

Every time it happens.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Every time it happens.

Should read: "Every time I see it happen."

Or what, you're flagging it in my games?