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Old Sat Sep 13, 2003, 02:00pm
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I have a question concerning a loose ball play. A pass was thrown to a receiver and caught. After the catch the receiver is running with the ball and a personal foul face mask occurs. The runner gets away from that and gains twenty yards on the play. What should the result of the play be? I have been told to add it to the end of the play, and penalize from the spot of the foul.
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Old Sat Sep 13, 2003, 04:12pm
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The foul doesn't occur during a loose ball play. it occurs during a running play. All of the action after the ball is caught is part of a running play. As such, the face mask foul is penalized from the basic spot, which is the end of the run. Tack it on.

Under the All But One, defensive fouls are also penalized from the basic spot, either the end of the run for running plays or the previous spot for loose ball plays.

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Old Sun Sep 14, 2003, 08:50pm
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BktBallRef is correct for the play you described. Here is how the facemask would work on the loose ball play: A1 drops back to pass. Rushing lineman B1 grabs and twists A2's face mask. A1 then throws a legal forward pass that is caught 10 yards downfield by A3 who then advances 20 more yards. Here the foul occured during a loose ball play (the run that precedes a legal forward pass), so the basic spot is the LOS, and this is also the enforcement spot: 15 yards from the previous spot. Here A would likely decline the penalty since the play picked up more yardage than the penalty would.
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