Ravens/Patriots last night

[bisonlj]

I didn't get a good look at the replay on the defensive holding call. I'd like to see a slow-motion replay. That's the receiver the BJ keys on in 7-man so I know he was looking there and knows what to look for. I'll assume it was a good call.

The comments do concern me if they are true. He may have been trying to talk to the player on his level to make communicate more effectively but that was probably inappropriate.

I thought the players were going to strangle the coaches after the timeout on 4th and 1. I'm curious to see that replay again because I wonder if the Patriots OL let up a little when the heard the whistle and thus allowed the Ravens to stop them. That was my reaction seeing it in real time so to say the Ravens "stopped" them isn't necessarily accurate.

I heard the Ravens announcer complaining about not overturning the last Patriots touchdown. I thought that one was a no-brainer to let stand. He was adamant the ball was incomplete. It's definitely different watching the game with home team bias.

[JRutledge]

Defensive holding or illegal contact has been called all year rather consistently. I saw a call in favor of the Bears last week where the contact was less than in the Monday Night game. I saw a call this Sunday against the Vikings in favor of Roy Williams. Those are just two examples I saw that were even less contact and I did not see much complaining by the media about those calls.

Secondly, the catch at the end of the game was good. The receiver never missed a beat when the ball hit his hands. It was not even close. A catch is not required to be completely tucked in your chest.

This game is just another example on how people who have never strapped on the whistle do not have a clue as to what happens in a game.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Defensive holding or illegal contact has been called all year rather consistently. I saw a call in favor of the Bears last week where the contact was less than in the Monday Night game. I saw a call this Sunday against the Vikings in favor of Roy Williams. Those are just two examples I saw that were even less contact and I did not see much complaining by the media about those calls.

Secondly, the catch at the end of the game was good. The receiver never missed a beat when the ball hit his hands. It was not even close. A catch is not required to be completely tucked in your chest.

This game is just another example on how people who have never strapped on the whistle do not have a clue as to what happens in a game.

Peace

Personally, I don't get the *****ing on the defensive holding call -- it was quite freaking obvious. WAY more than 5 yards downfield, the defender held the receiver for at least 2 steps and then let him go. I'd be wondering why the official DIDN'T throw the flag. Hell, it's illegal contact or holding - doesn't matter as both carry an AFD in the NFL.

Throwing the flag should've been an ejection.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Personally, I don't get the *****ing on the defensive holding call -- it was quite freaking obvious. WAY more than 5 yards downfield, the defender held the receiver for at least 2 steps and then let him go. I'd be wondering why the official DIDN'T throw the flag. Hell, it's illegal contact or holding - doesn't matter as both carry an AFD in the NFL.

Throwing the flag should've been an ejection.

Also the flag was out before the ball got to the receiver. So it was clear the official knew what he saw and already had made a decision.

Peace

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Throwing the flag should've been an ejection.

I agree. Does the NFL not require an ejection for receiving 2 USC penalties?

(FWIW - when I heard about the incident, my first reaction was shock that it happened in a game where I wasn't officiating. )

[golfnref]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

I agree. Does the NFL not require an ejection for receiving 2 USC penalties?

(FWIW - when I heard about the incident, my first reaction was shock that it happened in a game where I wasn't officiating. )

There is no NFL rule requiring ejection for two USC fouls.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by golfnref

There is no NFL rule requiring ejection for two USC fouls.

There's nothing stopping the WH from tossing this buffoon, either.

[golfnref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

There's nothing stopping the WH from tossing this buffoon, either.

Refs toss very few "buffoons" in the NFL.

[RoyGardner]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

..... I'm curious to see that replay again because I wonder if the Patriots OL let up a little when the heard the whistle and thus allowed the Ravens to stop them. That was my reaction seeing it in real time so to say the Ravens "stopped" them isn't necessarily accurate.

Wing official was clearly blowing his whistle, killing the clock, and coming in toward the R just before the snap on this one. Very probable that at least some of the O line knew that the play had been killed.

[OverAndBack]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

I heard the Ravens announcer complaining about not overturning the last Patriots touchdown. I thought that one was a no-brainer to let stand. He was adamant the ball was incomplete.

I hate homers.