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Old Thu Jun 11, 2015, 06:29am
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To recap, with whatever new verbage actually finds its way into the rulebook this season, this play, previously posted, is still a foul, right?

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Or would a violation find its way in here somehow?
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2015, 06:45am
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To recap, with whatever new verbage actually finds its way into the rulebook this season, this play, previously posted, is still a foul, right?

Defender Fouls Free Thrower

Or would a violation find its way in here somehow?
Well...it would seem as though it's a delayed violation first (assuming that's what the interp calls for). Sure there's contact but what advantage is gained if Team A is going to get another shot?

Of course, I could be just as confused as the NFHS/IAABO powers that be.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:02am
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Well...it would seem as though it's a delayed violation first (assuming that's what the interp calls for). Sure there's contact but what advantage is gained if Team A is going to get another shot?

Of course, I could be just as confused as the NFHS/IAABO powers that be.
I'm likely to call both, depending on the severity of the displacement. Just remember, this is 99.99% of the time going to be a common foul.
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I'm likely to call both, depending on the severity of the displacement. Just remember, this is 99.99% of the time going to be a common foul.
And 99.99% of the time, once you call that foul you won't have any more problems the rest of the game.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:56am
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And 99.99% of the time, once you call that foul you won't have any more problems the rest of the game.
Yep, at least after you explain to the coach that backing down a shooter is not "boxing out."
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Just remember, this is 99.99% of the time going to be a common foul.
Unless the NFHS was persuaded by Mr. Webb to interpret the new rule as ignoring such contact unless it's intentional.

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Mr. Webb's IAABO Power Point slide from IAABO's 2014-15 new rules presentation:

If there is contact on the free throw shooter by the defender who breaks the free throw line plane, ignore contact unless intentional.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:17pm
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Unless the NFHS was persuaded by Mr. Webb to interpret the new rule as ignoring such contact unless it's intentional.
The ball is still live, there is absolutely no rules basis for such an interpretation. Actually, it goes completely against the rules in regards to illegal contact during a live ball.

I'll continue with my correct interpretation of calling a foul. I don't follow IAABO interps.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:38pm
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The ball is still live, there is absolutely no rules basis for such an interpretation. Actually, it goes completely against the rules in regards to illegal contact during a live ball.

I'll continue with my correct interpretation of a calling a foul. I don't follow IAABO interps.
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I don't follow IAABO interps.
Unfortunately, I have to. Now that he's got his "interpretation" changed into an actual rule, perhaps Mr. Webb will now rethink his "intentional" interpretation, and bring it back a little.
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The ball is still live, there is absolutely no rules basis for such an interpretation. Actually, it goes completely against the rules in regards to illegal contact during a live ball.

I'll continue with my correct interpretation of calling a foul. I don't follow IAABO interps.
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Unfortunately, I have to.....
Just remember that most of us do not, so you should quit asking us why IAABO passed such an interpretation.
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Unless the NFHS was persuaded by Mr. Webb to interpret the new rule as ignoring such contact unless it's intentional.
And unless they put it into a case play, or I get direction from my local IAABO board to do it that way, you won't find me treating contact with a FT shooter like it's dead ball contact.
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