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Sorry I did not read all the comments.
I cannot tell anything by the video.
I did not read all the comments but if I am waiving off the basket, I am not taking my time. I am waving it off immediately and I am going towards the table. I am not watching the ball go through the hole. Man that was close and I am glad it was not me with that lack of video evidence. Still some games to go and now I am scared. Peace
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Did you guys watch the video that was posted in the comments on the original article? It is shot from behind the black team's bench and it shows the shot clearly should have counted.
I'm assuming 6A is one of Oregon's biggest classes, and this is a state playoff game? Unbelievable that you would still have 2-person crews at that point in the season. In Missouri, even the smallest classes use 3-person crews from the district tournaments all the way to the state finals. |
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A whistle while the ball is in the air, whether at the end of a quarter or on an off-ball foul during the game, mean the exact same thing. Some understand that, others don't, that's not a surprise. Just because 'everyone' thinks something, doesn't really matter does it. The fact that you cannot connect the dots with what I'm saying and how it relates to the OP, doesn't mean it's not there. It just means you don't see it, and frankly I'm not surprised. And for the record, I've never once said that my method is best or the only way to handle things. It is only how I handle this situation, and that it has been very effective for me. I have only offered up a suggestion, something to consider, maybe try it in a lower level game and make a decision from there, or maybe just disregard it altogether, whatever..... Everyone here is a big person and can make there own decision and judgment on what's best for him/her. There are officials out there, and I've worked with many, that have the mechanic of not having a whistle at all to end a quarter.The fact is the FED has not spelled out a standard mechanic or procedure for a whistle end of quarters, so I don't see where anyone, especially here, has absolute authority to say what is the correct mechanic/procedure and what isn't.
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But that has absolutely nothing to do with blowing the whistle while a legal try is still in flight. Those whistles always cause confusion in games I've worked. And I was only stating what my method is and why I do it that way. Your post was only a reference point, and not a personal affront to you.
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I'm the the association that normally has both of those schools (along with Camron) and the next day I had a playoff game in the same area as the winning school.
Our assigner dropped by our locker room at halftime of our playoff game just to say hi and give us a couple of observations. I asked him if he had seen the video and he stated he only looked at it briefly as he had been travelling between several of our smaller classification tournaments last weekend. He thought the shot was off before the horn... The officials in this game weren't from our association, but from another one down south. I asked if he had any blowback from the call and he stated he hadn't, but he was sure glad the two officials weren't from our association as he'd be dealing with a lot of grief from various parties if they were! There has been some talk of Oregon going to 3 man (finally) in the next couple of years, but I'll believe it when I see it. |
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In my area we do a mix of two and three person during the regular season. One of the main factors is the lack of officials. For playoffs in Michigan everything is three person. Personally I think that 3 person provides a better product regardless of what is used during the year.
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The second video leaves no doubt - at least as it relates to the horn.
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Sorry I should have said not hitting my whistle to signal the end of the period, when the ball is released in time, until after it is clear the shot is good or not. Of course I would whistle to signal a foul but I'm guessing you knew that already. Last edited by jeremy341a; Tue Mar 17, 2015 at 11:21am. |
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3 vs 2
I know that some of this discussion has gone the way of 3 vs. 2. In my state ( GO TERPS ), we go to 3 for the play offs, as you get deeper into the playoffs, you start to see some consistency regarding the officiating. However the first two rounds can be a joke. They are paying for an extra set of eyes to ball watch and miss rotations. We should just stick to two man ( regular season is done two man ) for the first two rounds.
Fred Barakat once told a story at his camp where Dean Smith told him we aren't paying $500 for another set of eyes to ball watch. It seems that the same thing is true in a lot of hs basketball....
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