Controversial end to Oregon Tournament Game

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

We do it here the same as jpgc99 has described. I couldn't imagine hitting my whistle while a shot that would be counted is still in flight.

So as an "off" official, you're not calling a foul off-ball (ie. hitting your whistle) while a shot is in flight? Of course you would because the whistle does not make the ball dead. Same philosophy applies my friend.....

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

So as an "off" official, you're not calling a foul off-ball (ie. hitting your whistle) while a shot is in flight? Of course you would because the whistle does not make the ball dead. Same philosophy applies my friend.....

Sorry I should have said not hitting my whistle to signal the end of the period, when the ball is released in time, until after it is clear the shot is good or not. Of course I would whistle to signal a foul but I'm guessing you knew that already.

[Multiple Sports]

I know that some of this discussion has gone the way of 3 vs. 2. In my state ( GO TERPS ), we go to 3 for the play offs, as you get deeper into the playoffs, you start to see some consistency regarding the officiating. However the first two rounds can be a joke. They are paying for an extra set of eyes to ball watch and miss rotations. We should just stick to two man ( regular season is done two man ) for the first two rounds.

Fred Barakat once told a story at his camp where Dean Smith told him we aren't paying $500 for another set of eyes to ball watch. It seems that the same thing is true in a lot of hs basketball....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

I know that some of this discussion has gone the way of 3 vs. 2. In my state ( GO TERPS ), we go to 3 for the play offs, as you get deeper into the playoffs, you start to see some consistency regarding the officiating. However the first two rounds can be a joke. They are paying for an extra set of eyes to ball watch and miss rotations. We should just stick to two man ( regular season is done two man ) for the first two rounds.

Fred Barakat once told a story at his camp where Dean Smith told him we aren't paying $500 for another set of eyes to ball watch. It seems that the same thing is true in a lot of hs basketball....

It is if they haven't done 3 all year. If you make the first two rounds 2 man as well, then you'll have that problem in the latter rounds instead.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

It is if they haven't done 3 all year. If you make the first two rounds 2 man as well, then you'll have that problem in the latter rounds instead.

Unless those that get the latter rounds typically have other 3 person experience that those getting to the first rounds don't have.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Unless those that get the latter rounds typically have other 3 person experience that those getting to the first rounds don't have.

Same thing applies (mostly) in Massachusetts. Two-person crews for most high school games all season.

But, for the post-season tournament, all games are three person. College officials are the only ones with significant three-person experience. Most tournament crews have at least one college person, but not all. But, for later round games, all-college crews are much more common. Some will say they are the better officials and should get the late round games, but I know several very good high school only officials who are not able to get late round games because they are inexperienced in the three person mechanics.

Through the years, these officials build up experience...but it is not the same as a regular season of 3-person mechanics.

[referee99]

Just posted a couple of days ago. big chunks of the game missing at the end. no real help.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Same thing applies (mostly) in Massachusetts. Two-person crews for most high school games all season.

But, for the post-season tournament, all games are three person. College officials are the only ones with significant three-person experience. Most tournament crews have at least one college person, but not all. But, for later round games, all-college crews are much more common. Some will say they are the better officials and should get the late round games, but I know several very good high school only officials who are not able to get late round games because they are inexperienced in the three person mechanics.

Through the years, these officials build up experience...but it is not the same as a regular season of 3-person mechanics.

People who work only (or mostly) college games should not swoop in and take the HS tournament games from people who work a bulk of the regular season.