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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 12:16pm
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Thanks Adam. I wonder how you check with your state? Anyhow my own reasoning and rules knowledge would suggest a forfeited game seeing as you probably cant allow anyone to fill in....
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 12:37pm
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Thanks Adam. I wonder how you check with your state? Anyhow my own reasoning and rules knowledge would suggest a forfeited game seeing as you probably cant allow anyone to fill in....
Suspend the game and let the powers that be figure out whether to forfeit it or resume it at a later date.
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 04:22pm
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Thanks Adam. I wonder how you check with your state? Anyhow my own reasoning and rules knowledge would suggest a forfeited game seeing as you probably cant allow anyone to fill in....

www.uiltexas.com/basketball

The UIL sets all rules & procedures that schools must follow regarding player eligibility, coaches certification, contest requirements, etc. The docs are lengthy and sometimes difficult to read but its all there. For the most part we are not concerned with this set of rules as we are there to enforce NFHS rules but this is one of those times its a good idea to have read over the uil basketball plan, manual & contest rules. So that you can read tem at your leisure, here are the answers to your questions as they apply in Texas.

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High School & Middle School coaches must be an employee of the district licensed to teach in Texas (or a retired coach or administrator) and be certified in CPR/First Aid/AED, Concussion Training, UIL Rules Compliance Training, and the NFHS Coaches course.

Since it is the school administrations job to verify these credentials then all we would be required to verify in your OP situation is that the person taking over the team is an employee. So, pretty much anyone at the game who works for the school district (doesn't have to be from that school) is good to go -- the administrator, the teacher running the concession stand, the cheer coach, some kid's mom who is a kindergarten teacher, etc., etc., etc.

All you need to do when this happens again in a UIL is ask for the administrator and give them a limited amount of time to find an appropriate replacement coach. Keep in mind this would not be the same for an "off-season" tournament.

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As previously answered by another poster, give them the prescribed amount of time and then it becomes a delay situation. Just as above, if there is someone else in the gym who "can" serve as coach then they should grab them fast and at least get the game started. But, it's not on us to get that done.
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 04:33pm
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High School & Middle School coaches must be an employee of the district licensed to teach in Texas (or a retired coach or administrator) and be certified in CPR/First Aid/AED, Concussion Training, UIL Rules Compliance Training, and the NFHS Coaches course.
You HAVE to be a teacher to coach in Texas??? While I agree it makes things easier from the district's POV, I'm shocked that that would be an actual requirement.
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 07:30pm
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You HAVE to be a teacher to coach in Texas??? While I agree it makes things easier from the district's POV, I'm shocked that that would be an actual requirement.
For public schools, which are governed by the UIL, the coach MUST be a full time employee of the district. While technically a non-certified employee like a custodian or teachers aide could coach this practice has largely been discontinued because of FLSA laws, so the reality is 99.9% of the coaches in our state are certified teachers (including but not limited to PE). Only a retired coach or administrator can be hired as a part-time coach and then only as an assistant.

There are schools under other governing bodies such as TAPPs (parochial/private) that do allow for outside, part-time coaches. Also, this requirement would not apply to AAU, clubs, eec leagues, etc. that are not associated with the UIL.
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