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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:57pm
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Moving in what manner? If a coach asked you why you called a block on this play, would you be able to explain it to him?
Of course I would!!
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:41pm
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Of course I would!!
And what would your explanation be?

Hopefully not your quote from earlier

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Tough call to make. The replay does show the defender moving upon impact. The official made a god call afaict.
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:13pm
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And what would your explanation be?

Hopefully not your quote from earlier
Same as mine probably.

"Coach, the offensive player tried to go around the defender. From my angle it looked like the defender moved into the offensive players path while the shooter was airborne. It was close, but my initial reaction was 'block'"
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:22pm
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Same as mine probably.

"Coach, the offensive player tried to go around the defender. From my angle it looked like the defender moved into the offensive players path while the shooter was airborne. It was close, but my initial reaction was 'block'"
Way too many words and way too many that can be used against you ("it looked like" and "my initial reaction")

Try to keep it to five words or fewer (might not always be possible, but it will get you movign in the right direction)/

"#14 took away his landing space."
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Old Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:31pm
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And what would your explanation be?

Hopefully not your quote from earlier
"Coach, he was moving into him"
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Old Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:40pm
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"Coach, he was moving into him"
Every step he took is a back pedal. How was he moving into him?
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:03pm
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Every step he took is a back pedal. How was he moving into him?
OK I can see that from the video and I don't disagree with you. But in reality the official who made the call is looking at the play from a different view and may have seen it differently. He certainly didn't hesitate on making his call.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:19pm
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OK I can see that from the video and I don't disagree with you. But in reality the official who made the call is looking at the play from a different view and may have seen it differently. He certainly didn't hesitate on making his call.
Go back and watch the video again. This time, watch nothing but the L. Don't look at the play, watch only the Lead official.

He never even looks at the defender. He is watching the offensive player, and then his eyes go up to watch the ball. He has no clue whether the defender had LGP or not...so he blows this call because he did not pick up the defender like he should have.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:30pm
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Go back and watch the video again. This time, watch nothing but the L. Don't look at the play, watch only the Lead official.

He never even looks at the defender. He is watching the offensive player, and then his eyes go up to watch the ball. He has no clue whether the defender had LGP or not...so he blows this call because he did not pick up the defender like he should have.
OK I can agree with that. But in reality the official who made the call is the one who is better suited to explain the call.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:05pm
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Go back and watch the video again. This time, watch nothing but the L. Don't look at the play, watch only the Lead official.

He never even looks at the defender. He is watching the offensive player, and then his eyes go up to watch the ball. He has no clue whether the defender had LGP or not...so he blows this call because he did not pick up the defender like he should have.
OK I can understand what your saying and I'm not disagreeing with you. To call a block that official saw something that to him determined it to be a block. What that was only he knows.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:51pm
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OK I can see that from the video and I don't disagree with you. But in reality the official who made the call is looking at the play from a different view and may have seen it differently. He certainly didn't hesitate on making his call.
I'm not sure what angle a person could possibly have that would make it appear that the defender was moving into the shooter. I'm shocked that anyone even for a moment even thinks about the possibility of a block on this play.
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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:10pm
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I'm not sure what angle a person could possibly have that would make it appear that the defender was moving into the shooter. I'm shocked that anyone even for a moment even thinks about the possibility of a block on this play.

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I agree with you 100%. But I will say that I have made this charge call from the lead many many times. It really is not a bad position to make the call of one is refereeing the defense.

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Old Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:56pm
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I'm not sure what angle a person could possibly have that would make it appear that the defender was moving into the shooter. I'm shocked that anyone even for a moment even thinks about the possibility of a block on this play.
That's why I stated the calling official is the one who can explain it best.
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Old Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:41pm
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How does taking a step back equate to moving "into" him?
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How does taking a step back equate to moving "into" him?
I'm guessing the call was made because either a) the official just missed it or b) the official buys into the "must be set" myth.
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