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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:08am
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PC, send it up north.
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:42am
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From this angle I vote PC. If I had another angle I might change my opinion to a no call if the ball handler tried to go around and just clipped the side of the defender who then fell over trying to draw a charge. But I am definitely not voting for a block. Nothing wrong was done says yoga.
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 11:54am
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PC is if anything. Only I would love a better angle. Looks like the contact was not as bad as it seems. I might go with a nothing from leads angle. He was definitely looking at the offensive player.
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 12:30pm
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imho, this is a block. The defender cannot move AFTER the defender has left the ground to maintain LGP.

KEEP IN MIND, this play (like virtually ALL plays) is best seen by the official who has the play coming towards them. This angle is NOT the best one to have a call on this play....the angle FROM THE LEAD IS!
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:09pm
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The defender cannot move AFTER the defender has left the ground to maintain LGP.
He's not maintaining his position, he is in the path before the shooter goes airborne and never leaves it.

The rule requires him to have a legal position before the shooter goes airborne, which he does. He never does anything to lose that legal position.
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:06pm
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imho, this is a block. The defender cannot move AFTER the defender has left the ground to maintain LGP.

KEEP IN MIND, this play (like virtually ALL plays) is best seen by the official who has the play coming towards them. This angle is NOT the best one to have a call on this play....the angle FROM THE LEAD IS!
The defender can not move "into the path" after the shooter leaves the floor. It doesn't say the defender can not move at all.
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:57pm
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Moving in what manner? If a coach asked you why you called a block on this play, would you be able to explain it to him?
Of course I would!!
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:41pm
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Of course I would!!
And what would your explanation be?

Hopefully not your quote from earlier

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Tough call to make. The replay does show the defender moving upon impact. The official made a god call afaict.
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:13pm
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And what would your explanation be?

Hopefully not your quote from earlier
Same as mine probably.

"Coach, the offensive player tried to go around the defender. From my angle it looked like the defender moved into the offensive players path while the shooter was airborne. It was close, but my initial reaction was 'block'"
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Old Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:22pm
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Same as mine probably.

"Coach, the offensive player tried to go around the defender. From my angle it looked like the defender moved into the offensive players path while the shooter was airborne. It was close, but my initial reaction was 'block'"
Way too many words and way too many that can be used against you ("it looked like" and "my initial reaction")

Try to keep it to five words or fewer (might not always be possible, but it will get you movign in the right direction)/

"#14 took away his landing space."
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Old Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:31pm
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And what would your explanation be?

Hopefully not your quote from earlier
"Coach, he was moving into him"
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Old Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:40pm
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"Coach, he was moving into him"
Every step he took is a back pedal. How was he moving into him?
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Old Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:41pm
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How does taking a step back equate to moving "into" him?
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Old Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:44pm
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How does taking a step back equate to moving "into" him?
I'm guessing the call was made because either a) the official just missed it or b) the official buys into the "must be set" myth.
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Old Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:59pm
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[QUOTE=Adam;923518]I'm guessing the call was made because either a) the official just missed it or b) the official buys into the "must be set" myth.[/QUOTE]

Also known as the "must stand there and take it like a man" myth!
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