Arm & Leg Compression Sleeves

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

It's not a matter of being "stupid"...just a matter of being IGNORANT.

Disagree. Once the officials have been educated in regard to the new rule, it moves from the realm of ignorance into the realm of stupidity.

Once informed of the new rule, just exactly how difficult is it to understand this (below)?

Headbands and wristbands must be white, black, beige or a single solid school color. When wearing headbands and/or wristbands, all team players must wear the same color, i.e., the headband color must match the wristband color. Arm compression sleeves, and leg compression sleeves, must be white, black, beige or a single solid school color. When wearing arm compression sleeves, and/or leg compression sleeves, all team players must wear the same color, i.e., the arm compression sleeve color must match the leg compression sleeve color.

Or, even easier:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

arm SLEEVE = leg SLEEVE

head BAND = wrist BAND

SLEEVE <> BAND

Or, check this out (created by one of our esteemed Forum members with a sense of humor, it's factual, and funny):

http://www.iaabo6.org/Interp/2014/in...Oct%202013.pdf

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Disagree. Once the officials have been educated in regard to the new rule...

You can stop right here with your flawed premise.

This is precisely the problem; many aren't getting educated on the rule (for a variety of different reasons).

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Adam

You can stop right here with your flawed premise.

This is precisely the problem; many aren't getting educated on the rule (for a variety of different reasons).

Shouldn't all officials read the new rule book each year? And, maybe it's different in other states, but don't you have to attend a certain number of meetings?

There doesn't seem to be any reason why officials DON'T learn the new rules.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Shouldn't all officials read the new rule book each year? And, maybe it's different in other states, but don't you have to attend a certain number of meetings?

There doesn't seem to be any reason why officials DON'T learn the new rules.

Meetings don’t guarantee anything for some folks, especially those who just sit and BS with their buddies. As for the rule book: check your partners this season and see how many of them have cracked the spine on theirs, if they’re even carrying them in their bags.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Meetings don’t guarantee anything for some folks, especially those who just sit and BS with their buddies. As for the rule book: check your partners this season and see how many of them have cracked the spine on theirs, if they’re even carrying them in their bags.

As I have stated in relation to other subjects, I am part of 2 HS associations. One of them is 60 miles away, for which I do public school games. One of the reasons I don't mind making the trips to work up there is because they are a very well run organization. They discuss rules every meeting, and we have a video session every meeting.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Meetings don’t guarantee anything for some folks, especially those who just sit and BS with their buddies. As for the rule book: check your partners this season and see how many of them have cracked the spine on theirs, if they’re even carrying them in their bags.

So it's the fault of the educators that students don't pay attention or do their homework?

All officials are given the resources to learn new rules and such, so if they don't know them when they get on the floor then it's their fault... not others for failing to educate them properly.

[bob jenkins]

When we met the V coach at our JuCo game last night, he asked specifically about the new NCAAW 10-second BC rule. Claimed that "many" officials from his area did not know about the rule.

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

When we met the V coach at our JuCo game last night, he asked specifically about the new NCAAW 10-second BC rule. Claimed that "many" officials from his area did not know about the rule.

We called a 10 second BC violation in our JuCo game last week...the coach didn't know the new rule....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Shouldn't all officials read the new rule book each year? And, maybe it's different in other states, but don't you have to attend a certain number of meetings?

There doesn't seem to be any reason why officials DON'T learn the new rules.

Should? yes
Do? No

As for association meetings, very few go to them all, and very few really pay attention to the in depth rules discussions. How many of your meetings do you spend significant time talking about the uniform rules?

There are enough threads here describing association meetings where some very basic rulings are debated in ways that can only be explained by wide spread rule ignorance.

Add to that the general lack of interest in these fashion rules, coupled with the increasing complexity of those rules, and you're going to have a lot of officials

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Adam

Should? yes
Do? No

As for association meetings, very few go to them all, and very few really pay attention to the in depth rules discussions. How many of your meetings do you spend significant time talking about the uniform rules?

There are enough threads here describing association meetings where some very basic rulings are debated in ways that can only be explained by wide spread rule ignorance.

Add to that the general lack of interest in these fashion rules, coupled with the increasing complexity of those rules, and you're going to have a lot of officials

I understand this, but that's not my point. The point is that officials are given the resources to learn, so saying "I didn't know the rule" is ridiculous. If anything, it tells me that that official doesn't care.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I understand this, but that's not my point. The point is that officials are given the resources to learn, so saying "I didn't know the rule" is ridiculous. If anything, it tells me that that official doesn't care.

I agree that it's ridiculous. I don't think it means they don't care, though. Well, maybe they don't care about the fashion rules. There are a lot of obscure rules that people don't always know, they just don't have much of a need to learn.

I've worked with a lot of good, solid, dedicated officials who don't know specific rules (had a long discussion once with an official for whom I have a lot of respect about whether a shot at the wrong basket should count if time expires prior to the ball going in) that they never have the occasion to use.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Adam

I agree that it's ridiculous. I don't think it means they don't care, though. Well, maybe they don't care about the fashion rules. There are a lot of obscure rules that people don't always know, they just don't have much of a need to learn.

I've worked with a lot of good, solid, dedicated officials who don't know specific rules (had a long discussion once with an official for whom I have a lot of respect about whether a shot at the wrong basket should count if time expires prior to the ball going in) that they never have the occasion to use.

Okay, perhaps saying they don't care is going too far, but they sure as hell can't complain that they weren't given the opportunity to learn.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Check this out (created by one of our esteemed Forum members with a sense of humor, it's factual, and funny):

http://www.iaabo6.org/Interp/2014/in...Oct%202013.pdf

Well, as it turns out, it's not 100% factual. It isn't Spud Webb in the photo, it's Muggsy Bogues.