Arm & Leg Compression Sleeves

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

2013-2014 Rules Interpretations

SITUATION 2: Prior to the start of the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing: black leg sleeves and white headbands. RULING: Legal. The rules do not require wristbands, headbands, arm and leg sleeves to all be the same color. (3-5-3, 3-5-4a)

We're doing something different in Connecticut:

CONNECTICUT ONLY: Head and wrist bands, along with knee and arm sleeves, must all be the same color.

Just what we need, to make a "Fashion Police" rule more stringent than it legally is. For what possible reason can we be doing this? I've been told that it was to make it easier for officials, coaches, and players, to understand. Coaches, and players, I can understand. But officials? Some Grand Poobah here in Connecticut thinks that officials are too stupid to understand the "real" rule. Give me a break.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Some Grand Poobah here in Connecticut thinks that officials are too stupid to understand the "real" rule.

Well......

Your State did make it easier to understand.

If you went to any association meeting in any State...what percentage of the officials, do you think, would know exactly what combination of colors and what combination of gear have to be coordinated?

It's not a matter of being "stupid"...just a matter of being IGNORANT.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

It's not a matter of being "stupid"...just a matter of being IGNORANT.

Disagree. Once the officials have been educated in regard to the new rule, it moves from the realm of ignorance into the realm of stupidity.

Once informed of the new rule, just exactly how difficult is it to understand this (below)?

Headbands and wristbands must be white, black, beige or a single solid school color. When wearing headbands and/or wristbands, all team players must wear the same color, i.e., the headband color must match the wristband color. Arm compression sleeves, and leg compression sleeves, must be white, black, beige or a single solid school color. When wearing arm compression sleeves, and/or leg compression sleeves, all team players must wear the same color, i.e., the arm compression sleeve color must match the leg compression sleeve color.

Or, even easier:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

arm SLEEVE = leg SLEEVE

head BAND = wrist BAND

SLEEVE <> BAND

Or, check this out (created by one of our esteemed Forum members with a sense of humor, it's factual, and funny):

http://www.iaabo6.org/Interp/2014/in...Oct%202013.pdf

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Disagree. Once the officials have been educated in regard to the new rule...

You can stop right here with your flawed premise.

This is precisely the problem; many aren't getting educated on the rule (for a variety of different reasons).

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Adam

You can stop right here with your flawed premise.

This is precisely the problem; many aren't getting educated on the rule (for a variety of different reasons).

Shouldn't all officials read the new rule book each year? And, maybe it's different in other states, but don't you have to attend a certain number of meetings?

There doesn't seem to be any reason why officials DON'T learn the new rules.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Shouldn't all officials read the new rule book each year? And, maybe it's different in other states, but don't you have to attend a certain number of meetings?

There doesn't seem to be any reason why officials DON'T learn the new rules.

Meetings don’t guarantee anything for some folks, especially those who just sit and BS with their buddies. As for the rule book: check your partners this season and see how many of them have cracked the spine on theirs, if they’re even carrying them in their bags.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Meetings don’t guarantee anything for some folks, especially those who just sit and BS with their buddies. As for the rule book: check your partners this season and see how many of them have cracked the spine on theirs, if they’re even carrying them in their bags.

As I have stated in relation to other subjects, I am part of 2 HS associations. One of them is 60 miles away, for which I do public school games. One of the reasons I don't mind making the trips to work up there is because they are a very well run organization. They discuss rules every meeting, and we have a video session every meeting.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Meetings don’t guarantee anything for some folks, especially those who just sit and BS with their buddies. As for the rule book: check your partners this season and see how many of them have cracked the spine on theirs, if they’re even carrying them in their bags.

So it's the fault of the educators that students don't pay attention or do their homework?

All officials are given the resources to learn new rules and such, so if they don't know them when they get on the floor then it's their fault... not others for failing to educate them properly.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Shouldn't all officials read the new rule book each year? And, maybe it's different in other states, but don't you have to attend a certain number of meetings?

There doesn't seem to be any reason why officials DON'T learn the new rules.

Should? yes
Do? No

As for association meetings, very few go to them all, and very few really pay attention to the in depth rules discussions. How many of your meetings do you spend significant time talking about the uniform rules?

There are enough threads here describing association meetings where some very basic rulings are debated in ways that can only be explained by wide spread rule ignorance.

Add to that the general lack of interest in these fashion rules, coupled with the increasing complexity of those rules, and you're going to have a lot of officials

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Adam

Should? yes
Do? No

As for association meetings, very few go to them all, and very few really pay attention to the in depth rules discussions. How many of your meetings do you spend significant time talking about the uniform rules?

There are enough threads here describing association meetings where some very basic rulings are debated in ways that can only be explained by wide spread rule ignorance.

Add to that the general lack of interest in these fashion rules, coupled with the increasing complexity of those rules, and you're going to have a lot of officials

I understand this, but that's not my point. The point is that officials are given the resources to learn, so saying "I didn't know the rule" is ridiculous. If anything, it tells me that that official doesn't care.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Check this out (created by one of our esteemed Forum members with a sense of humor, it's factual, and funny):

http://www.iaabo6.org/Interp/2014/in...Oct%202013.pdf

Well, as it turns out, it's not 100% factual. It isn't Spud Webb in the photo, it's Muggsy Bogues.

[bob jenkins]

arm SLEEVE = leg SLEEVE

head BAND = wrist BAND

SLEEVE <> BAND

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

arm SLEEVE = leg SLEEVE

head BAND = wrist BAND

SLEEVE <> BAND

Poesy. Pure poesy.