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Old Mon Aug 05, 2013, 08:23am
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I'm reminded of the time a friend of mine tried showing me Amway, and his grandson, unable to contain his excitement in the middle of the presentation, exclaimed,

"Show him the circles, Grandpa!"

This is just going in circles now. It's run its course.
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Old Sun Aug 04, 2013, 02:53pm
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This really explains so much.
It should. I am trying to figure out why I must agree with what is on a list. You have not explained that to me yet.

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Old Sun Aug 04, 2013, 02:58pm
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It should. I am trying to figure out why I must agree with what is on a list. You have not explained that to me yet.

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I'm not saying you have to. I'm saying you're not even understanding what it is you're disagreeing with. Or, you're intentionally misstating their opinions to make some point.
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Old Sun Aug 04, 2013, 03:01pm
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I'm not saying you have to. I'm saying you're not even understanding what it is you're disagreeing with. Or, you're intentionally misstating their opinions to make some point.
I understand, I just disagree with the premise. And the example you gave from Adam, happens all the time without any specifics being given to the thrower. I have had coaches think it was a travel and I was not even the administering official and I was not anywhere near enough to hear what an officials said or did not say to the thrower. It did not change the reaction of a coach that felt they could travel out of bounds on a throw-in. You really need to try that one again.

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I understand, I just disagree with the premise. And the example you gave from Adam, happens all the time without any specifics being given to the thrower. I have had coaches think it was a travel and I was not even the administering official and I was not anywhere near enough to hear what an officials said or did not say to the thrower. It did not change the reaction of a coach that felt they could travel out of bounds on a throw-in. You really need to try that one again.

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You seem to be misunderstanding again.
The scenario you are discussing is:
1. Official tells thrower not to move.
2. Thrower doesn't keep his pivot foot and moves within the prescribed limits.
3. Opposing coach complains.

That's not what we're discussing. We're saying that telling a player not to move is just as likely to perpetuate the rule myth as an official who calls traveling on a throw in. It's not a direct relationship between #1 and #3 above. It's a coach who has heard #1, maybe back when he was a player, and then believes it to his core (like a player or coach believing they get 2 steps without a travel).
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