Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game ...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is why I say "I'll bounce it to you there" then step away if I'm not already away. Much more appropriate than "don't move".

Eitehr way it goes, I am still saying, "Don't move." I think it makes little difference and nothing I have heard changes my mind or seems relevent to what a player thinks they can or cannot do.

Peace

[Rich]

We've also taken to tweeting our whistles as we come in on the first horn. Picked this up from some NCAA Men's officials and it's worked well for us. Easy for them to ignore the horn, but the whistle grabs attention.

I didn't put a ball on the floor once last season in over 60 games.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

I didn't put a ball on the floor once last season in over 60 games.

Me neither, but it's a weapon that I always have in my holster, and I'm not afraid to use it.

Originally Posted by Rob1968

NFHS Officials Manual, 2.2 PUTTING THE BALL IN PLAY 2.2.2 C End Line 5. states ; "When the clock is stopped, use the proper verbal and visual signal to indicate whether a spot throw-in or running the end line privileges are in effect." - Signal 26 = Spot Throw-in, Signal 23 = Run End Line.

I say "SPOT THROW" while pointing to the spot (Signal 26). I say "YOU HAVE BASELINE/ENDLINE" while motioning back and forth (Signal 23).

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The recent thread on rules regarding the jump ball to start the game has given me an idea for an article for our local board's newsletter. The working title is, "Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game".

I want concentrate on things that officials often, or sometimes, say during a game that do not have any basis in the rules.

Perhaps include a section including "mechanics officials should probably not being doing during a game".

Like my signal letting my partners know which teams are in the single/double bonus. Or doing whatever this guy is doing.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Perhaps include a section including "mechanics officials should probably not being doing during a game".

Like my signal letting my partners know which teams are in the single/double bonus.

Why would communicating with your partners be something that an official should not be doing?

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why would communicating with your partners be something that an official should not be doing?

I thought the same thing until I checked out the video.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BLydic

I thought the same thing until I checked out the video.

The video is about an over-the-top block mechanic. the statement was about telling your partner(s) that a team is in the bonus so you are less likely to forget the shooter on the next foul. Or, I mis-read it or the link is wrong.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The video is about an over-the-top block mechanic. the statement was about telling your partner(s) that a team is in the bonus so you are less likely to forget the shooter on the next foul. Or, I mis-read it or the link is wrong.

Exactly. Reminding my partner(s) of the pending bonus situation is expected here, and it's just good practice. It's done subtly, so no one really knows what we're doing.

Telling everyone in the gym that you saw a clean block? I'd avoid that.

Some communication is good. Other communication can get you in trouble.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why would communicating with your partners be something that an official should not be doing?

I agree with you. I only say that because I was admonished by a leader in my association not to use that signal.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I agree with you. I only say that because I was admonished by a leader in my association not to use that signal.

Did the leader give a reason? Did the leader give an alternative?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Did the leader give a reason? Did the leader give an alternative?

I was using it during play. The gym did not have a team foul indicator on the scoreboard, and one team was holding for the final shot of the period. I knew the defense was at 6 fouls, so I used that signal.

I had asked this guy to stick around and watch our crew, as he had just finished his game. He asked me what was with the "hook 'em horns" signal. I told him and he said don't do that. No alternative or explanation given.

To be fair, I had just finished watching NBA playoff ball and that was a signal I saw them using in those situations. Probably not the best idea to incorporate signals from the NBA game.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Nothing I have heard changes my mind or seems relevant to what a player thinks they can or cannot do.

Keep saying, "Don't move", over, and over again, along with a few partners that also say it, and eventually a player, or even worse, a coach, will start to believe what they hear. Far fetched? Maybe, but it happened to me in a game:

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I had to T up a coach this past year because he wouldn't stop complaining to my partner, who, as the administering official, let a player "move" on a designated spot throwin. The coach kept saying, "But he can't move". My partner tried, and I tried, to explain the movement limitations on a designated spot throwin, but he wouldn't accept any of that, he just kept saying, "But he can't move". Eventually, I had to tell him to, "Sit down".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Keep saying, "Don't move", over, and over again, along with a few partners that also say it, and eventually a player, or even worse, a coach, will start to believe what they hear. Far fetched? Maybe, but it happened to me in a game:

Why would I care if a player thinks they cannot move?

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why would I care if a player thinks they cannot move?

Man. You are one persistent son of a gun. You stick to your guns. You're a pain in the butt, but, good for you. I often wish that I had your confidence. You're still wrong, but you're persistent, and confident. Again, good for you.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Man. You are one persistent son of a gun. You stick to your guns. You're a pain in the butt, but, good for you. I often wish that I had your confidence. You're still wrong, but you're persistent, and confident. Again, good for you.

It is not about sticking to my guns, I just do not agree with you. You have not said anything that anyone has stated that is in charge or over an organization that I am apart of in any capacity. If you do not want to stay "Don't move" that is fine with me. But you are not in a position to tell me or others what they should or should not say, when it really does not have connotation that you have assumed it does with everyone. I have similar pet peeves but I know they are my pet peeves, not speaking for what others should do. Just like you wearing a belt, it is up to you to decide if that is what you want to do when others thinks it looks silly. And trust me, there are more people that do not want to wear a belt then are upset about this terminology that you seem to be upset or irritated by. I think I have a right to my opinion, it is not about right or wrong.

Peace