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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Adam

Also, as long as the summer leagues are paying half (or less) than the schools pay during the season, you're going to increase the number of officials who a) are just less professional in general, or b) don't give the same effort as they do in February.".

100% true and why I stopped doing summer leagues.
If we negotiate a fair price for our work with the schools, why would I want to go do that same job for half that amount so that some AAU organizer can pad his wallet? It is sad how people permit themselves to be taken advantage of without even knowing it. They are actually happy to be working six games a day at a tournament. What they don't realize is that it hurts all officials and if they would refuse to do more than three, then the event organizers would be forced to raise the fees in order to attract more people and each person could make the same amount by only working half as much. Silly monkeys!

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

if they would refuse to do more than three ,,,

Honestly, isn't this the limit you can take anyhow? My mind goes late in the third game and it's a challenge to finish sometimes.

I don't mind working summer ball for reasonably reduced rates. I'm typically there for 2 or 3 games, get a good run, see more plays, deal with some bs, work on a thing or two and cover my refreshments for the week. I don't feel taken advantage at all, as a matter of fact, I consider any time in the gym as well spent honing the skills.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BLydic

Honestly, isn't this the limit you can take anyhow? My mind goes late in the third game and it's a challenge to finish sometimes.

I don't mind working summer ball for reasonably reduced rates. I'm typically there for 2 or 3 games, get a good run, see more plays, deal with some bs, work on a thing or two and cover my refreshments for the week. I don't feel taken advantage at all, as a matter of fact, I consider any time in the gym as well spent honing the skills.

While someone else pockets the rest of the money...

I'll do it at a camp. I won't do it for $20/game.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

100% true and why I stopped doing summer leagues.
If we negotiate a fair price for our work with the schools, why would I want to go do that same job for half that amount so that some AAU organizer can pad his wallet? It is sad how people permit themselves to be taken advantage of without even knowing it. They are actually happy to be working six games a day at a tournament. What they don't realize is that it hurts all officials and if they would refuse to do more than three, then the event organizers would be forced to raise the fees in order to attract more people and each person could make the same amount by only working half as much. Silly monkeys!

Originally Posted by BLydic

Honestly, isn't this the limit you can take anyhow? My mind goes late in the third game and it's a challenge to finish sometimes.

I don't mind working summer ball for reasonably reduced rates. I'm typically there for 2 or 3 games, get a good run, see more plays, deal with some bs, work on a thing or two and cover my refreshments for the week. I don't feel taken advantage at all, as a matter of fact, I consider any time in the gym as well spent honing the skills.

This is how I approach my AAU schedule. I work no more than 3 games in a day. I give availability only for tournaments where I want to work that level of play. I make it known that a major reason for my limited availability are the game fees.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

This is how I approach my AAU schedule. I work no more than 3 games in a day. I give availability only for tournaments where I want to work that level of play. I make it known that a major reason my limited availability are the game fees.

I'm with you there. If I can work top-notch play (which means boys varsity equivalent or better), I'll do 2 or 3. But it's all gotta be on my terms. Time's way too precious in the summer.

[BigBaldGuy]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm with you there. If I can work top-notch play (which means boys varsity equivalent or better), I'll do 2 or 3. But it's all gotta be on my terms. Time's way too precious in the summer.

I am only going to work 3 person and only if I can pick or know my partners...plain and simple.

[JRutledge]

Anything I work is to see plays more than anything. I prefer not to work AAU for the most part and I worked a National Invitational this past week simply to work on play calling. And we get paid more then $20 for sure. Not over $30 but it was worth it to do that rather than sit at home and not officiating for months. That being said this last tournament was done by an association I respect and treats me very well. When this tournament was run by others, I did not work it at all or very limited. And I get to work mostly with other quality officials which makes the experience much more fun to work.

Peace