Random partners

[pfan1981]

Normally I try and work with my normal partner, but got called for an AAU tourney this past weekend. Got paired with an interesting fellow for a few games. It was two man, and he didn't shift properly based on where the ball went out of bounds, wouldn't properly bounce the ball to the players, as the lead he wouldn't run to the baseline, sometimes he never got down there on a short possession, and other unprofessional things.

My question is how do I deal with this? I am in my thirties and this gentlemen was in his late forties or early fifties, so I don't want to be "out of line". I have seen him as a varsity level official. In the third game I started to do the cool "hang ten" hand motion to switch sides to be in the proper place because I became sick of bouncing the ball across the lane on the baseline.

I feel you should always officiate to the best of your abilities no matter the contest. Being somewhat new to officiating, I don't want an assignor to see me out of position or improperly officiating for future assignments.

What do you think?

Pfan

[Adam]

Summer ball? I'm going to bounce across the lane on a regular basis as lead rather than rotating over; especially if I'm working extra (more than two consecutive) games. If my partner doesn't like it, I'll adjust, but most guys around here will do this.

Are you saying he walked down the court as lead?

[BktBallRef]

Summer ball is a different animal. Games are on a time schedule. We try to keep things moving. Do we switch on every foul? No. Do we rotate on every OOB call? No. Do we walk all the way to the reporting area to signal a foul? No. Do we go to the proper positions for timeouts during every timeout? No.

Summer ball is a different animal.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Summer ball is a different animal. Games are on a time schedule. We try to keep things moving. Do we switch on every foul? No. Do we rotate on every OOB call? No. Do we walk all the way to the reporting area to signal a foul? No. Do we go to the proper positions for timeouts during every timeout? No.

Summer ball is a different animal.

We have 70 minutes from the start of game one to the start of game two. 28 minute running clock - clock only stops for TO's and all whistles w/ 2 min left in the game. Clock doesn't even stop for FT's. 2 x 30 sec TO's per half - they don't carry over. 3 min half time.

There's still stuff for me to work on and keep active.

"Coach, take all the time you want with those subs."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

Summer ball? I'm going to bounce across the lane on a regular basis as lead rather than rotating over; especially if I'm working extra (more than two consecutive) games. If my partner doesn't like it, I'll adjust, but most guys around here will do this.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Summer ball is a different animal. Games are on a time schedule. We try to keep things moving. Do we switch on every foul? No. Do we rotate on every OOB call? No. Do we walk all the way to the reporting area to signal a foul? No. Do we go to the proper positions for timeouts during every timeout? No.

Agree, especially if both the assigner, and your partner, are on the same page. We use similar "relaxed" mechanics here in our Catholic middle school games, during the regular season.

But please note, nobody around here would ever use these "relaxed" mechanics during any of our regular season high school games (any level), or during any regular season middle school games assigned by our high school assigner.

[JRutledge]

It is summer ball for God's sake. Nothing is done the proper way to the letter. Heck I have as Trail bounced the ball to the opposite side of the court on a throw-in.

I worked an AAU Tournament this past week, ending Friday. Games were stop clock as normal and shot bonus at 10 fouls. There were many times we did not switch and we did not move mechanically to keep games moving. The only time I would do all the mechanics properly, is at camp during the summer. Otherwise we are trying to keep moving and save legs. In some cases I did 6 games in a row and I will be damned I was going to do everything perfect. And you deal with it because it is summer. Work on other things like your play calling and coverage areas.

Peace

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is summer ball for God's sake. Nothing is done the proper way to the letter.

One exception: Ref camp.

The summer ball, "move things along" attitude will certainly affect your evaluation there, and it's a tough mentality to break when all officials are in shorts, games are the usual running-time procedure, and few players wear numbers.

[D-League]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

I feel you should always officiate to the best of your abilities no matter the contest. Being somewhat new to officiating, I don't want an assignor to see me out of position or improperly officiating for future assignments. What do you think?

I do a ton of summer games. I agree 100%.

You never know who is watching.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by D-League

I do a ton of summer games. I agree 100%.

You never know who is watching.

I agree. Some things are accepted in summer/rec, like not making long switches. But there is never an excuse for not hustling up the court in my opinion.

[Travelling Man]

Yes, I agree, one should always aim to practice proper hand signals, court rotations, and other such official distinctions. Even when I do 4th 5th grade club basketball ther is always someone in the stands with an IPad recording the games. Plus, you will tend to "degrade" your official signaling skills if you only use them during "higher level" reffing episodes.
I must admit tho, I do not like it when my partner does not rotate positions on calls--especially on shooting fouls---because it keeps me on the side in the coaches "reach". Really, sometimes I need a break of distance from those coaches constant bantering and such.
Am I alone or anyone else here agree?

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by Travelling Man

Yes, I agree, one should always aim to practice proper hand signals, court rotations, and other such official distinctions. Even when I do 4th 5th grade club basketball ther is always someone in the stands with an IPad recording the games. Plus, you will tend to "degrade" your official signaling skills if you only use them during "higher level" reffing episodes.
I must admit tho, I do not like it when my partner does not rotate positions on calls--especially on shooting fouls---because it keeps me on the side in the coaches "reach". Really, sometimes I need a break of distance from those coaches constant bantering and such.
Am I alone or anyone else here agree?

All the rec games I do are 2 man. And shooting fouls are always handled by the book (to do otherwise wouldn't make much sense). Calling official reports. Non-calling official administers. You don't always switch on shooting fouls.
You can always take advantage of the rule "the calling official has the option of going to Lead (opposite table) to avoid a confrontational situation with coach/bench".

Good point with the iPads and videos. If I'm an official, I'm less concerned with videos of bad calls. Any assignor knows that bad calls happen. But I don't want to be the subject of a video where I'm being lazy and miss a call because I couldn't be bothered to jog up the court.

[Travelling Man]

lol @ 'being the subject of one too lazy to jog up the court" ohhh lol sad but true!