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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:58am
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Padg -

You think BMac wears a psi if shorts that needs a belt ????
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:30am
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As for wondering if you should approach him or not. Assigners at all levels are looking for leaders...crew chiefs..."Referees". Those types of people are not afraid to ask questions or talk to people...sometimes you also must lay down some tough love...it is all part of the job.
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:26pm
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Hot Pants Don't Require A Belt ...

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And wearing belts.
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Shorts that need a belt?
Shut up. And, shut up.
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:29pm
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Rookies Can Be So Cute ...

My only exception to the "relaxed" mechanics summer "rule", other than for a camp, is if I'm working with a rookie who wants to work on his, or her, mechanics. If that's the case, then I'll be glad to play along, as long as if it's only for a game, or two.
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 09:00pm
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It's hard to describe in words, but he would let the ball fall out of his hands and usually the player had to go out of position to get it. It appeared to everyone to be extremely lazy and like he didn't want to even be there.

As far as the lead going down to the paint, he walked his way down there. Some plays he never got to the baseline. Again, laziness and didn't want to be there.

I'm looking to move up the ranks, do some varsity this year, state tourny by the time I turn 40, college ball (someday), etc. I understand it's summer ball, but as officials, don't we always want to put our best foot forward?

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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 09:02pm
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... I understand it's summer ball, but as officials, don't we always want to put our best foot forward?

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No. Just like not every employee at your local Walmart will give you the same level of customer service.
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:35pm
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It's hard to describe in words, but he would let the ball fall out of his hands and usually the player had to go out of position to get it. It appeared to everyone to be extremely lazy and like he didn't want to even be there.

As far as the lead going down to the paint, he walked his way down there. Some plays he never got to the baseline. Again, laziness and didn't want to be there.

I'm looking to move up the ranks, do some varsity this year, state tourny by the time I turn 40, college ball (someday), etc. I understand it's summer ball, but as officials, don't we always want to put our best foot forward?

pfan
What BNR said, plus this:

If your partner is being lazy, don't fall into the trap. You don't have to rotate and switch like you do during the season, but you can make changes without appearing lazy. It's not that hard, frankly.

I'm not saying your partner appeared lazy, I'm just acknowledging it's possible. Of course, it's also possible you expect too much. Now, to quote some random dude I read on Facebook:

"I've found that when I get partners who are less than enthusiastic, it's a good chance for me to work on being the best partner I can be in adverse conditions; to lead by example.

Also, as long as the summer leagues are paying half (or less) than the schools pay during the season, you're going to increase the number of officials who a) are just less professional in general, or b) don't give the same effort as they do in February."

Whether you think it should be that way is irrelevant, it just is.
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Old Tue Jul 16, 2013, 03:01am
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Also, as long as the summer leagues are paying half (or less) than the schools pay during the season, you're going to increase the number of officials who a) are just less professional in general, or b) don't give the same effort as they do in February.".
100% true and why I stopped doing summer leagues.
If we negotiate a fair price for our work with the schools, why would I want to go do that same job for half that amount so that some AAU organizer can pad his wallet? It is sad how people permit themselves to be taken advantage of without even knowing it. They are actually happy to be working six games a day at a tournament. What they don't realize is that it hurts all officials and if they would refuse to do more than three, then the event organizers would be forced to raise the fees in order to attract more people and each person could make the same amount by only working half as much. Silly monkeys!
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Old Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:40am
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if they would refuse to do more than three ,,,
Honestly, isn't this the limit you can take anyhow? My mind goes late in the third game and it's a challenge to finish sometimes.

I don't mind working summer ball for reasonably reduced rates. I'm typically there for 2 or 3 games, get a good run, see more plays, deal with some bs, work on a thing or two and cover my refreshments for the week. I don't feel taken advantage at all, as a matter of fact, I consider any time in the gym as well spent honing the skills.
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