Head Coach location

[Smitty]

The box is irrelevant once he is not allowed to stand and coach in it. I couldn't care less where he sits as long as it's somewhere on the bench. As long as he's behaving himself, why worry about such things?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Smitty

The box is irrelevant once he is not allowed to stand and coach in it. I couldn't care less where he sits as long as it's somewhere on the bench. As long as he's behaving himself, why worry about such things?

Not correct. 10-5-1: "The head coach shall remain seated on the team bench, except..." Then, if a. is allowed but he "lost the box", he can still b., c., d., and e., but the preliminary expectation stated prior to a. still applies.
Right?

EDIT: Oh, I think I see what you mean..."as long as it's somewhere on the bench" is your operative phrase. You saying that "somewhere on the bench" might not necessary be "in the box"? He might possibly be "on the bench" but no longer "in the box." Which looks like it would be okay.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Not correct. 10-5-1: "The head coach shall remain seated on the team bench, except..." Then, if a. is allowed but he "lost the box", he can still b., c., d., and e., but the preliminary expectation stated prior to a. still applies.
Right?

WTF?

[just another ref]

If he's not using the box, voluntarily or otherwise, he may sit anywhere on the bench.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Smitty

WTF?

What does the Wisconsin Tourist Federation have to do with the topic?

(see my edit, which unfortunately came a little late..... )

[JetMetFan]

Thanks, JAR. If he's been using the box, he has to stay in it. If he hasn't then he can stay wherever he wants but that means he wouldn't have had coaching box privileges during that game prior to the T.

So...if he's been using the box since the start of the game, my first answer applies.

If he hasn't been using the box since the start of the game, he shouldn't have been afforded any of the coaching box rights in the first place.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Thanks, JAR. If he's been using the box, he has to stay in it. If he hasn't then he can stay wherever he wants but that means he wouldn't have had coaching box privileges during that game prior to the T.

So...if he's been using the box since the start of the game, my first answer applies.

If he hasn't been using the box since the start of the game, he shouldn't have been afforded any of the coaching box rights in the first place.

Once he's whacked, though, he can sit anywhere on the bench -- but he needs to stay there.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Once he's whacked, though, he can sit anywhere on the bench -- but he needs to stay there.

Exactly. He's only required to stay within the box if he's using it. Once he loses it, no such requirement exists. And letemplay's thought about bring in the box when rising as allowed doesn't matter, either. As even if the coach relinquishes the box by sitting outside it, he can still rise as otherwise allowed.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Rich

Once he's whacked, though, he can sit anywhere on the bench -- but he needs to stay there.

They can still do the following.

b. The head coach may stand within the coaching box to request a time-out or signal his/her players to request a time-out.

c. The head coach may stand and/or leave the coaching box to confer with personnel at the scorer's table to request a time-out as in 5-8-4.

d. The head coach may stand within the coaching box to replace or remove a disqualified/injured player or player directed to leave the game.

e. The head coach may stand as in 10-4-4c and 10-4-4d.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Rich

Once he's whacked, though, he can sit anywhere on the bench -- but he needs to stay there.

Agreed. If he's received a T, lost his coaching box privileges, then he can sit anywhere he wants to on the bench. No rule says he has to continue sitting within the confines of the box.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Thanks, JAR. If he's been using the box, he has to stay in it. If he hasn't then he can stay wherever he wants but that means he wouldn't have had coaching box privileges during that game prior to the T.

So...if he's been using the box since the start of the game, my first answer applies.

If he hasn't been using the box since the start of the game, he shouldn't have been afforded any of the coaching box rights in the first place.

I get it.

Coach stands in the box. Gets whacked.

Now, coach leaves the box to go sit at the end of the bench.

Whack the coach again as soon as he steps out of the box on his / her way to his/her seat.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Smitty

The box is irrelevant once he is not allowed to stand and coach in it. I couldn't care less where he sits as long as it's somewhere on the bench. As long as he's behaving himself, why worry about such things?

I've gotten 2 emails from a college supervisor this week telling us we are not enforcing the coaches sitting in chairs within the box.

So apparently somebody cares, and it's somebody who signs checks.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I've gotten 2 emails from a college supervisor this week telling us we are not enforcing the coaches sitting in chairs within the box.

So apparently somebody cares, and it's somebody who signs checks.

There is no such rule in NFHS basketball once the coach no longer has access to the box. He can sit anywhere on the bench. If he is going to use the box during the game and starts the game seated, it must be within the box. When the box here was only 6' it was a real pain to tell the coach his chair had to be in there -- it reminded me of a small jail cell.

Obviously, in NCAA basketball things are different since the coach doesn't lose the box after a technical foul. And of course the box is 28' long. So there it makes perfect sense to expect that the coach always be in the box.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich

There is no such rule in NFHS basketball once the coach no longer has access to the box. He can sit anywhere on the bench. If he is going to use the box during the game and starts the game seated, it must be within the box. When the box here was only 6' it was a real pain to tell the coach his chair had to be in there -- it reminded me of a small jail cell.

Obviously, in NCAA basketball things are different since the coach doesn't lose the box after a technical foul. And of course the box is 28' long. So there it makes perfect sense to expect that the coach always be in the box.

Right. "Bench area" and "coaches box" are (nearly) synonymous in NCAA; not so in FED.

[letemplay]

You mean college coaches can get T'd? Anybody see end of MD-NC State? MD coach had to set high jump record protesting a call way out onto floor...guess now he's glad ole Roger didnt whack him