"They can't do that!"

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

For the record, it is illegal to fake this play.

Peace

And in the NFL, one couldn't fake a knee either as a player simulating taking a knee is considered down.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

For the record, it is illegal to fake this play.

Peace

Originally Posted by Rich

NCAA rules, it is. No specific coverage in NFHS rules.

I know of more than one white hat that would flag it as UNS after being told the QB is taking a knee, though.

I did hear a WH mention this after telling the defense that the offense was going to take a knee.

[BillyMac]

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

This has nothing to do with the Victory Formation -- other than it could be the reason why teams *use* the victory formation, though.

Pisarcik went on to be Ron Jaworski's backup in Philadelphia, too.

[bainsey]

I don't know what I enjoyed more from that video -- the fumble itself, or the good ol' 70s credit crawl.

I'm also enjoying the fact that I used the Giants/Bucs game as an example for a basketball parallel on a basketball board, and what's the more interesting subject here? The NFL.

I guess I got away without "OT."

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I guess I got away without "OT."

Just this once.

I think it's difficult to find a basketball equivalent...winning team shooting a shot with the shot clock off with the defense conceding a loss is the closest thing I could think of. Or perhaps a winning team continuing to full court press when the game is no longer in doubt. Besides that, I've got nothing.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Just this once.

I think it's difficult to find a basketball equivalent...winning team shooting a shot with the shot clock off with the defense conceding a loss is the closest thing I could think of. Or perhaps a winning team continuing to full court press when the game is no longer in doubt. Besides that, I've got nothing.

I can't really think of any basketball equivalents that are as dangerous.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

I can't really think of any basketball equivalents that are as dangerous.

When we know a team is trying to foul, we call fouls that we have not called all game. It is not exactly the same, but is an awareness of the situation and adjusting to the end of the game situation.

Peace

[BigBaldGuy]

I am a high school official and all this does is make my job more difficult on Friday night becasue some coach thinks this is okay. It is not...sportsmanship is already at a all time low...this will not help.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Baltimore Ravens vs. Philadelphia Eagles...one point game with even more time left (1:04). And they (rightfully) didn't decide to try and pull these shenanigans.

That's the Ravens choice. TB didn't do anything illegal and they didn't try to hurt anybody. They broke a supposed un-written rule by trying to create a turnover during the Victory formation. A lot less dangerous than Golden Tate's illegal peel-back block on Shawn Lee but we have plenty of ex-players and coaches who think that was a great hit and should be legal.

So basically Schiano did something that those same people, in this case, don't like so now he is wrong or a dirty coach.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

They broke a supposed un-written rule by trying to create a turnover during the Victory formation.

Supposed ????

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Adam

I can't really think of any basketball equivalents that are as dangerous.

I really wasn't looking for dangerous. It was more about things a coach got furious about that were well within the rules. It could be dangerous, but doesn't have to be.

And yes, I'm struggling to think of an example, too.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

That's the Ravens choice. TB didn't do anything illegal and they didn't try to hurt anybody. They broke a supposed un-written rule by trying to create a turnover during the Victory formation. A lot less dangerous than Golden Tate's illegal peel-back block on Shawn Lee but we have plenty of ex-players and coaches who think that was a great hit and should be legal.

So basically Schiano did something that those same people, in this case, don't like so now he is wrong or a dirty coach.

That's not just the Ravens' choice...that's what 31 other teams in the NFL do. There's nothing supposed about this unwritten rule. In literally every game this year where the V-formation/kneel down was used at the end of the game, everyone in attendance knew what to do. It's the understood protocol understood by players and coaches. There's a reason that a first year coach straight from college tried this stunt rather than a coach who's been established in the NFL.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That's not just the Ravens' choice...that's what 31 other teams in the NFL do. There's nothing supposed about this unwritten rule. In literally every game this year where the V-formation/kneel down was used at the end of the game, everyone in attendance knew what to do. It's the understood protocol understood by players and coaches. There's a reason that a first year coach straight from college tried this stunt rather than a coach who's been established in the NFL.

And it is done at every and high school games as well. So this is not just an NFL thing or an NFL position. If this happen in a high school game you might have a fight. If you do this in a college game, you might have a fight. This is not unique or special to the NFL and everyone seems to fall in line.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That's not just the Ravens' choice...that's what 31 other teams in the NFL do. There's nothing supposed about this unwritten rule. In literally every game this year where the V-formation/kneel down was used at the end of the game, everyone in attendance knew what to do. It's the understood protocol understood by players and coaches. There's a reason that a first year coach straight from college tried this stunt rather than a coach who's been established in the NFL.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And it is done at every and high school games as well. So this is not just an NFL thing or an NFL position. If this happen in a high school game you might have a fight. If you do this in a college game, you might have a fight. This is not unique or special to the NFL and everyone seems to fall in line.

Peace

And in most cases, the score is out of reach.

Just because the leading team thinks the losing team should concede doesn't mean they have to. I think it is arrogant to expect the trailing team to surrender at the discretion of the leading team. It should be up to the trailing team to concede by not lining up on the line and then the leading team can take the knee without risk.