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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 05:28pm
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For the record, it is illegal to fake this play.

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NCAA rules, it is. No specific coverage in NFHS rules.

I know of more than one white hat that would flag it as UNS after being told the QB is taking a knee, though.
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NCAA rules, it is. No specific coverage in NFHS rules.

I know of more than one white hat that would flag it as UNS after being told the QB is taking a knee, though.
It was considered a deception play to act like you are going to run a kneel down and then try to run a play and we threw a flag. And that is the interpretation from our state as well. We had this happen a couple of years ago and were backed by our higher ups.

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I'm curious to see what happens the next time the Buccaneers have the ball and the lead late. If this was baseball, I know what would happen... but what's the football equivalent of a fastball in the ribs?
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2012, 05:41pm
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I'm curious to see what happens the next time the Buccaneers have the ball and the lead late. If this was baseball, I know what would happen... but what's the football equivalent of a fastball in the ribs?
Oh there are a whole bunch of them, and they don't necessarily need to wait until TB has the ball and the lead late. "Accidentally" smoking a guy who signaled a fair catch. "Playing to the echo of the whistle" by hitting someone late or out of bounds to name a couple. I know these are both violations of actual written rules. But in my opinion violating the unwritten rule of the kneel down like TB did won't be cause for much consideration at "payback time." I'm not advocating these happening, BTW, just saying TB shouldn't be surprised if/when karma comes their way. Schiano and his supporters apparently see this as "hustle" and trying to win the game. Coughlin and his supporters see it as dirty and violating an unwritten rule. Maybe they're both right.
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Schiano and his supporters apparently see this as "hustle" and trying to win the game. Coughlin and his supporters see it as dirty and violating an unwritten rule. Maybe they're both right.
Perhaps the most cogent thing written so far in this thread. I'm not normally an advocate of the middle (sometimes the truth, or best answer, is on the far extreme of an argument) for its own sake, but this may be one case where the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Yes, the players in the league play to win, and playing to the final snap is important and expected. Every sport, however, has its unwritten rules (basketball seems to have fewer), and this seems to be one of them.

Sure, the Bucs should have an opportunity to win, but they did, and they found themselves down, and out of timeouts, at the last snap. Apparently, the convention is to acknowledge defeat at that point.

There's nothing dirty about going against convention, but there are often times consequences for doing so. This happens more in baseball than the other sports, but the other sports have it, too.
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For the record, it is illegal to fake this play.

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NCAA rules, it is. No specific coverage in NFHS rules.

I know of more than one white hat that would flag it as UNS after being told the QB is taking a knee, though.
I did hear a WH mention this after telling the defense that the offense was going to take a knee.
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This has nothing to do with the Victory Formation -- other than it could be the reason why teams *use* the victory formation, though.

Pisarcik went on to be Ron Jaworski's backup in Philadelphia, too.
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I don't know what I enjoyed more from that video -- the fumble itself, or the good ol' 70s credit crawl.

I'm also enjoying the fact that I used the Giants/Bucs game as an example for a basketball parallel on a basketball board, and what's the more interesting subject here? The NFL.

I guess I got away without "OT."
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I guess I got away without "OT."
Just this once.

I think it's difficult to find a basketball equivalent...winning team shooting a shot with the shot clock off with the defense conceding a loss is the closest thing I could think of. Or perhaps a winning team continuing to full court press when the game is no longer in doubt. Besides that, I've got nothing.
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Just this once.

I think it's difficult to find a basketball equivalent...winning team shooting a shot with the shot clock off with the defense conceding a loss is the closest thing I could think of. Or perhaps a winning team continuing to full court press when the game is no longer in doubt. Besides that, I've got nothing.
I can't really think of any basketball equivalents that are as dangerous.
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