"They can't do that!"

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

At worst, he's implying Rich cuts corners, probably similar to calling a foul on a quick touch when the losing team tries to foul (with opposite results) or ignoring the little violations when a game is no longer in doubt.

More likely, (confirmed by rocky himself), it's a rhetorical point. Knowing rocky, I thought it was clearly the latter.

But he came up with a nefarious reason. We do the same as you illustrated all the time and wish I would have used that example earlier.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

But he came up with a nefarious reason. We do the same as you illustrated all the time and wish I would have used that example earlier.

Peace

It was hyperbole.

If anything, the practice Rich noted hurts the offense, in that he eliminates the chance for a fake.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

It was hyperbole.

If anything, the practice Rich noted hurts the offense, in that he eliminates the chance for a fake.

For the record, it is illegal to fake this play.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

For the record, it is illegal to fake this play.

Peace

NCAA rules, it is. No specific coverage in NFHS rules.

I know of more than one white hat that would flag it as UNS after being told the QB is taking a knee, though.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

NCAA rules, it is. No specific coverage in NFHS rules.

I know of more than one white hat that would flag it as UNS after being told the QB is taking a knee, though.

It was considered a deception play to act like you are going to run a kneel down and then try to run a play and we threw a flag. And that is the interpretation from our state as well. We had this happen a couple of years ago and were backed by our higher ups.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

I'm curious to see what happens the next time the Buccaneers have the ball and the lead late. If this was baseball, I know what would happen... but what's the football equivalent of a fastball in the ribs?

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I'm curious to see what happens the next time the Buccaneers have the ball and the lead late. If this was baseball, I know what would happen... but what's the football equivalent of a fastball in the ribs?

Oh there are a whole bunch of them, and they don't necessarily need to wait until TB has the ball and the lead late. "Accidentally" smoking a guy who signaled a fair catch. "Playing to the echo of the whistle" by hitting someone late or out of bounds to name a couple. I know these are both violations of actual written rules. But in my opinion violating the unwritten rule of the kneel down like TB did won't be cause for much consideration at "payback time." I'm not advocating these happening, BTW, just saying TB shouldn't be surprised if/when karma comes their way. Schiano and his supporters apparently see this as "hustle" and trying to win the game. Coughlin and his supporters see it as dirty and violating an unwritten rule. Maybe they're both right.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

For the record, it is illegal to fake this play.

Peace

Originally Posted by Rich

NCAA rules, it is. No specific coverage in NFHS rules.

I know of more than one white hat that would flag it as UNS after being told the QB is taking a knee, though.

I did hear a WH mention this after telling the defense that the offense was going to take a knee.

[BillyMac]

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

This has nothing to do with the Victory Formation -- other than it could be the reason why teams *use* the victory formation, though.

Pisarcik went on to be Ron Jaworski's backup in Philadelphia, too.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

For the record, it is illegal to fake this play.

Peace

And in the NFL, one couldn't fake a knee either as a player simulating taking a knee is considered down.