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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:29am
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I think it was about a 10 point game at the time. There was a little over three minutes left in the game. So at the time the game was still in doubt.

While I would hate to not finish a game in that situation, I kind of feel that is up to the coach.
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:32am
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While I would hate to not finish a game in that situation, I kind of feel that is up to the coach.
You did not answer my question. Are you going to forfeit the game on the spot because the coach said they are not leaving?

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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:55am
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You did not answer my question. Are you going to forfeit the game on the spot because the coach said they are not leaving?

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No I am not going to end the game on the spot. I am going to give the coach a chance to leave. How far, its hard to say. I want to make sure I can defend my actions. I dont want pull the trigger to quick but I also dont want him to make a mockery of the game. In the end though it is up to him.
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 09:03pm
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If the coach has earned two technicals...

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I think it was about a 10 point game at the time. There was a little over three minutes left in the game. So at the time the game was still in doubt.

While I would hate to not finish a game in that situation, I kind of feel that is up to the coach.
... it's obvious he's out of control, so put him out of the picture because he's shown he's unreasonable enough to not care how his behavior affects his team's chances. For me, at this point, it's game management's responsibility to get him out of there, and quick. Fortunately, we have LEOs at our games, and they have no issue with making sure anyone who needs to leave, leaves.

However, if game management were unwilling or unable to handle this, I'd suspend the game, write my report, and let the state decide the next steps.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 12:09am
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... it's obvious he's out of control, so put him out of the picture because he's shown he's unreasonable enough to not care how his behavior affects his team's chances. For me, at this point, it's game management's responsibility to get him out of there, and quick. Fortunately, we have LEOs at our games, and they have no issue with making sure anyone who needs to leave, leaves.

However, if game management were unwilling or unable to handle this, I'd suspend the game, write my report, and let the state decide the next steps.
That was another point which popped into my head. If the coach has picked up two direct Ts it's safe to say he hasn't been a solid citizen during the game. He's already taken up the crew's time and the players' time with his behavior.

I still don't see a need to bother game management. I was involved in a game - non-playoff - like this a few years ago and this is what my partner said to the coach:

1. "Coach, you need to leave the court."
2. "Coach, you need to leave the court."
3. "Coach, we're not restarting the game until you leave the court."
4. "Coach, if you don't leave the court we're going to call the game."

It all took about two minutes and the coach left.

One other consideration: if it's a District game wouldn't there be a representative from the coach's school in the gym? I ask because they would see how this person is representing their school and might be inclined to back up the officials if the coach got out of control.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:38pm
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Here in the sovereign state of Treehugger, if anyone doesn't leave a sports venue when directed to do so by a person in authority, they can be cited for trespass. This means that if I get someone (spectator, coach, player, etc.) like that, I can call the cops to come and take them away. This is a state law that was passed a few years ago.

I hope I never have to do that - not kidding.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:46pm
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Here in the sovereign state of Treehugger, if anyone doesn't leave a sports venue when directed to do so by a person in authority, they can be cited for trespass.
So, if your partner is the referee, and he wants you removed, then it's, "Bye. Bye. Mark Padgett"? Man. Your partners must love this law.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:57pm
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So, if your partner is the referee, and he wants you removed, then it's, "Bye. Bye. Mark Padgett"? Man. Your partners must love this law.
The only guy that would do that is the guy that wants overtime every game.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 08:41pm
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So, if your partner is the referee, and he wants you removed, then it's, "Bye. Bye. Mark Padgett"? Man. Your partners must love this law.
Not if the game took place in my city (where I do a lot of local kids rec league games) because all city employees (especially the cops) know not to tick me off.
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