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Old Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:22pm
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Yep, really. Believe it or not, some coaches actually encourage the behavior on the off chance it might possibly get a foul pulled away from one of their better players. Scandalous.


Beliveable, for sure. Still, I question its effectiveness. How many scorekeepers look for the raised hand, as opposed to the official's report?
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Old Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:28pm
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Beliveable, for sure. Still, I question its effectiveness. How many scorekeepers look for the raised hand, as opposed to the official's report?
I'm pretty sure jar addressed this, but just in case you didn't read it:

It's not meant to confuse the scorer. It's meant to "convince" the officials.
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Old Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:40pm
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I'm pretty sure jar addressed this, but just in case you didn't read it:

It's not meant to confuse the scorer. It's meant to "convince" the officials.
I'll be honest here. Sometimes I appreciate the help. Two defenders in the face of the shooter. One gets a piece of the arm. Sometimes you just can't be certain which one it was. Do we have a volunteer? OK, thank you, young man.
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Old Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:11pm
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I've had scorekeepers who start recording the foul (making the assumption that they know who I'm calling it on) before I get over to the reporting area... even without the whole "raised hand" thing. And yes, at one point it caused a problem when the scorekeeper had a star player's 5th foul when the team's coach thought it was his player's 4th. (Home team, in this case, so I told the coach we had to go by what the official book said and that if he had a problem with it, he should make sure the scorekeeper pays attention). Luckily, it was a 7th grade game with about 20 seconds left, so no major harm done.

As a consequence, I now tell the scorekeeper at every game that I will make eye contact with them and that they should not record anything until AFTER I make my report.
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Old Thu Jan 12, 2012, 05:52pm
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I've had scorekeepers who start recording the foul before I get over to the reporting area.
We had a game announcer announce the foul before I got over to the reporting area. That didn't last too long.
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Old Thu Jan 12, 2012, 05:56pm
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We had a game announcer announce the foul before I got over to the reporting area. That didn't last too long.
I believe there's a story about Joe Crawford doing the same thing with a PA announcer many moons ago...I want to say it was the Bulls PA announcer.
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Old Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:16pm
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It's not meant to confuse the scorer. It's meant to "convince" the officials.
He did. I missed it.

That doesn't seem much more effective, either. Once I have the foul, I'm pretty much locked on, even if I have to take a second or two to get the number.
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He did. I missed it.

That doesn't seem much more effective, either. Once I have the foul, I'm pretty much locked on, even if I have to take a second or two to get the number.
Its effectiveness isn't the issue; the intent is. I did it when I played. And as jar notes, if I've got two players who have committed a foul on the same shooter, I might just go with the volunteer if there's no other reason to choose the other one.
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