2 Different Rules Questions

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

If that poor grammar means someone has to read it 2-3 times just to figure out what they were trying to say, it matters.

And I agree with this. But that's not what bob said. He simply pointed out that the poster has poor grammar. Not that, because of the poor grammar, he couldn't understand what the poster was trying to get at.

Somewhere along the way, it became "rude" to correct people. The problem with that is, the whole point of correcting people is to make a change for the better.

And I would argue that there is a time, a place and away to correct people.

Making a snide remark such as "poor grammar skills aside" is not helping to correct someone. It's a nice way of saying "your writing sucks." That's not offering any sort of help. It's just being pretentious and snobby.

Instead, maybe if bob had said something to the effect of "You know, I couldn't quite get what you were saying because you had some poor grammar, some run-on sentences, etc. If you can communicate more clearly, we'd be better able to help you out" it wouldn't have come across the way it did.

[tref]

Originally Posted by fiasco

And I would argue that there is a time, a place and away to correct people.

Hey fiasco, there is a space between a & way!! j/k

I feel the same way about grammar on the internet as I do about being a fashion police

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by tref

I feel the same way about grammar on the internet as I do about being a fashion police

thank You; that wuz a point i mean't to briing up butt forget too.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by tref

I feel the same way about grammar on the internet as I do about being a fashion police

Nah, two different animals.

Like it or not, and regardless of whether people will admit it, you're judged on the words you use and the way you portray yourself, even online. That's why I'm a stickler to grammar in all mediums.

Fashion police? That comes down to whether the people who hired you care or not.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's why I'm a stickler to grammar in all mediums media.

Exactly how much of a stickler are you?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Like it or not, and regardless of whether people will admit it, you're judged on the words you use and the way you portray yourself, even online. That's why I'm a stickler to grammar in all mediums.

While this is true, people often go overboard in terms of judging others when it comes to making sweeping generalizations about a person based solely on their grammar.

For example, I really get a kick when people I've worked with will throw out someone's resume just because there's a typo or two. Yes, let's completely disregard someone's entire work history and accomplishments because they made a grammatical mistake on a piece of paper. That's great management right there.

Likewise, I think it's pretty foolish to judge an official's ability on the court in large measure by their ability to string words together on a keyboard. It's just looking for nits to pick just to pick nits, for the most part.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by fiasco

For example, I really get a kick when people I've worked with will throw out someone's resume just because there's a typo or two. Yes, let's completely disregard someone's entire work history and accomplishments because they made a grammatical mistake on a piece of paper.

Then check, check, and recheck before putting yourself out there. If you're looking to sell a product, make sure that product is shined up nicely for presentation.

By the way, none of this has anything to with our abilities on the court. This only has to do with our abilities here.

And you could say I'm a pretty good stickler, like not altering one's quote. Besides, "mediums" and "media" are both acceptable.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by bainsey

And you could say I'm a pretty good stickler, like not altering one's quote. Besides, "mediums" and "media" are both acceptable.

Dictionary.com? That's the grammar equivalent of Wikipedia, just FYI, as long as we're picking nits about grammar.

It's a bit more complicated than just saying both are acceptable. It depends on how the word is being used.

If you consult Merriam Webster, the accepted plural form of medium when you're talking about conveyance of information is media.

"Mediums" is reserved for "material or technical means of artistic expression."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

And you could say I'm a pretty good stickler, like not altering one's quote. Besides, "mediums" and "media" are both acceptable.

I've done it before, and I'll do it again. But hey, everyone needs a quixotic quest.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

But hey, everyone needs a quixotic quest.

Thanks, Snaqs. Now I can't get "Impossible Dream" out of my head!

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The phrase "must (should / would / could) OF" as a replacement for "must've" really chaps me...

You're not alone, sir. All you can do is call people on it.

Just like what we do, though, sometimes, there's backlash when we blow the whistle.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by fiasco

And I agree with this. But that's not what bob said. He simply pointed out that the poster has poor grammar.

That's exactly what he meant. Why are you looking to be a plumber today?

[bob jenkins]

I didn't intend to start a firestorm. The phrase "must (should / would / could) OF" as a replacement for "must've" really chaps me, for whatever reasons (that I couldn't explain to your satisfaction anyway).

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That's exactly what he meant. Why are you looking to be a plumber today?

Once again, you're not understanding the context of the conversation. And, once again, if you get confused, sometimes it can help to read back through the thread so you can understand what exactly is being said.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Once again, you're not understanding the context of the conversation. And, once again, if you get confused, sometimes it can help to read back through the thread so you can understand what exactly is being said.

Really? You can't be serious. I understood perfectly what Bob said....the OP, not without a bit of extra effort.

Nothing Bob said was inappropriate. You just want to pick a fight with him (and others who agree with him) over his comment about the poorly written post for some reason.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That's exactly what he meant. Why are you looking to be a plumber today?

Oh oh, there someone goes yet another time, blatantly slandering the fine vocation which has served not only me and my family but also thousands and thousands of needy customers with practical, effective, cost-conscious solutions for leaking pipes and faucets and clogged toilets and drains.

Why not say instead, "Why are you looking to be a developer of an officials' association management system today?"

May your wife's garbage disposal clog with turkey and yam parts tomorrow right before the football game starts, and may your local plumbing agency be unavailable so that you have to try to unclog it yourself but you end up breaking something so that what I, an honored and esteemed plumber, could take care of for a mere 108.00 costs you about 872.00 once you get around to replacing everything you broke when you shoved your tire iron down there to try to dislodge whatever is clogging things up and you end up breaking the sink for all your untrained efforts.

"Every time you flush, you put food on my family's table"

P.S. Anybody remember what this thread was about originally? I forgot.