Just thinking...

[Refsmitty]

Now that there is team control during a throw in - shouldn't that mean that a throw in from the front court to the back court is a violation? One that is tipped in the front court and is reganed in the back court should be a violation as well - correct?

We had an association meeting Sunday and dicussed fouls during the throw in but not this.

Thoughts?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

Now that there is team control during a throw in - shouldn't that mean that a throw in from the front court to the back court is a violation? One that is tipped in the front court should be a violation as well - correct?

We had an association meeting Sunday and dicussed fouls during the throw in but not this.

Thoughts?

No. They did not change the requirement of a back court violation in any way. The intent of the rule was to simply make a team control foul similar to other levels. They did not word it correctly, but that was the clear intent based on some literature about this rule.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

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Thoughts?

My thoughts are you haven't been spending much time in the forum since the rule change.

Also, there is no such thing as a throw-in from the front court. All throw-ins are from OOB and the ball does not have FC or BC status until player control is established, and even that has a couple of exceptions pertaining to players who are airborne.

[Adam]

Been discussed ad nauseum.

A throwin from FC to BC is not a violation because the FC and BC are defined in bounds, not OOB.

The tip is not a violation because the committee told us they only intended to change whether free throws were shot. They added some other rule changes to attempt to say that, and came pretty close.

[Refsmitty]

Thanks JR - makes sense now.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

Thanks JR - makes sense now.

Sorry badnews if I bothered you

I answered your question, didn't I? Or do I have to phrase it in pretty words for you and put my "smiley" icon in huge font?

[Refsmitty]

Yep - my bad

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I answered your question, didn't I? Or do I have to phrase it in pretty words for you?

I was first. Naaaanaaaanyyyy booooooo booooooo!!!!

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I was first. Naaaanaaaanyyyy booooooo booooooo!!!!

Peace

Just getting Smitty ready for those smart-a$$ coaches.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Just getting Smitty ready for those smart-a$$ coaches.

Come on he's getting murdered down there!

[Refsmitty]

Badnews - One of my points of emphasis for personal improvement this year is exactly that... to bite my tongue with some of those bast*&^s!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

Badnews - One of my points of emphasis for personal improvement this year is exactly that... to bite my tongue with some of those bast*&^s!

That's my POE every season. Still working on it.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

Now that there is team control during a throw in - shouldn't that mean that a throw in from the front court to the back court is a violation? One that is tipped in the front court and is reganed in the back court should be a violation as well - correct?

We had an association meeting Sunday and dicussed fouls during the throw in but not this.

Thoughts?

Regardless of the fact that the rules, as actually written, do say exactly that, the comment that were published with the change indicate that ONLY fouls are affected by the change. They should have written the rule a LOT better such that it would clearly only relate to fouls but they didn't.

What they did was muddy the water such that some editor, in 10-15 years, will read the rules, not being aware of the comments on the change, and declare we've been calling it wrong.

[SNIPERBBB]

You have to have player control to have a BC violation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

You have to have player control to have a BC violation.

So when A1, dribbling in the frontcourt, picks up his dribble in his frontcourt, holds the ball in his frontcourt, and then throws an errant pass to A2, who is standing with both feet in his backcourt, and then the ball hits A2 in the knee, and bounces away, you're not calling backcourt because A2 doesn't have player control?