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Welpe · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:15pm

No advantage gained by a player grasping the rim with his free hand before dunking...ooookay then.

RandyBrown · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:21pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe

No advantage gained by a player grasping the rim with his free hand before dunking...ooookay then.

All during the downward dunking motion. As I said previously, no hanging, no propulsion, no prolonging. Where's the advantage?

Welpe · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by RandyBrown

All during the downward dunking motion. As I said previously, no hanging, no propulsion, no prolonging. Where's the advantage?

Perhaps stabilization, improved yaw, reduced pitch, upward negative thrust...who gives a Canadian nickel, it's illegal for good reason. This isn't a case where you apply the Tower Principle and I'm not really sure why you are trying to.

Adam · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe

Perhaps stabilization, improved yaw, reduced pitch, upward negative thrust...who gives a Canadian nickel, it's illegal for good reason. This isn't a case where you apply the Tower Principle and I'm not really sure why you are trying to.

Mainly because it's not in the rule, but you're right in that TP is often applied where the rule itself doesn't call for it (3 seconds, Duke travels). And there's also the "That Guy Principal," you don't want to be the only ref in your area calling something.

RandyBrown · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:58pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe

Perhaps stabilization, improved yaw, reduced pitch, upward negative thrust...who gives a Canadian nickel, it's illegal for good reason. This isn't a case where you apply the Tower Principle and I'm not really sure why you are trying to.

You are changing my play situation. I explicitly exclude advantage, and you retort by putting it into the situation. I'm not trying to apply the Tower Principle. I said I figured others would, given that there is no advantage gained IN MY SITUATION, together with the fact that grasping is allowed while dunking. I mean, we don't call grasping the rim when the attempted dunk misses, so it can't be that there is some strict rule that the ball must go through the ring before grasping is allowed--or am I wrong there, too?

APG · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 11, 2011, 02:08pm

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Originally Posted by RandyBrown

You are changing my play situation. I explicitly exclude advantage, and you retort by putting it into the situation. I'm not trying to apply the Tower Principle. I said I figured others would, given that there is no advantage gained IN MY SITUATION, together with the fact that grasping is allowed while dunking. I mean, we don't call grasping the rim when the attempted dunk misses, so it can't be that there is some strict rule that the ball must go through the ring before grasping is allowed--or am I wrong there, too?

A player is not allowed to grasp the basket unless he's doing so to prevent injury or his hand is legally in contact with the ball in the process of dunking or stuffing the ball...otherwise it's a technical foul...period. What is hard to understand about that? Why are you the only one having an issue with the rule? How is it that everyone else understands this simple rule?

Adam · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 11, 2011, 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

A player is not allowed to grasp the basket unless he's doing so to prevent injury or his hand is legally in contact with the ball in the process of dunking or stuffing the ball...otherwise it's a technical foul...period. What is hard to understand about that? Why are you the only one having an issue with the rule? How is it that everyone else understands this simple rule?

Dunking does not legally allow a player to grasp the rim.

APG · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 11, 2011, 02:28pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Dunking does not legally allow a player to grasp the rim.

Shut up Snaq*...I knew what I was saying.

*Of course you are correct.

Welpe · #9 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 11, 2011, 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by RandyBrown

You are changing my play situation. I explicitly exclude advantage, and you retort by putting it into the situation.

You left an important factor out which I included but that is really neither here nor there.

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I'm not trying to apply the Tower Principle. I said I figured others would,

You sure seem to be arguing that we should be but since others aren't saying to, what does that tell you? Is your first thought that we are all wrong?