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Old Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:25pm
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Anyway, getting back to my topic: It sounds like some of you work in areas where at least some of the high school kids are capable of violating 10-3-4a. In an attempt to gather its frequency, has any of you ever actually called it?
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Old Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:31pm
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Anyway, getting back to my topic: It sounds like some of you work in areas where at least some of the high school kids are capable of violating 10-3-4a. In an attempt to gather its frequency, has any of you ever actually called it?
Not very often...it's not even a call that happens at any level of play that often. Consider how many times you've seen this happen in NCAA/NBA games. Players pretty much know you can't do this. I've called it once and it was pretty blatant.
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Old Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:37pm
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Not very often...it's not even a call that happens at any level of play that often. Consider how many times you've seen this happen in NCAA/NBA games. Players pretty much know you can't do this. I've called it once and it was pretty blatant.
That comports with my observations as a spectator.
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That comports with my observations as a spectator.
Well there's something faulty with your observations. What you think is happening is probably not happening. If you wish to, find an example on YouTube or any other site and share it with us. If it's happening as often as you said it was, then surely it would be easy to find video evidence?
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Old Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:49pm
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Well there's something faulty with your observations. What you think is happening is probably not happening. If you wish to, find an example on YouTube or any other site and share it with us. If it's happening as often as you said it was, then surely it would be easy to find video evidence?
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Old Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:51pm
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Sheez: "comport" means to be consistent with, or agree!
Umm...my bad!
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Old Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:34pm
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My chances of playing in The League would've increased considerably, if that was legal
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This play isn't legal at any level. The rule is the same under NCAA rules I believe. Under NBA rules, this would be an illegal assist in scoring violation...not a technical foul. The ball would be awarded to the defense at the free throw line extended.

Again I say, what you think you are viewing must not be what is happening. No official is going to allow a player to grasp the rim clearly with his off-hand and dunk the ball with the other hand...I promise you if I allowed this to happen in a game, the entire team on defense, the bench, the coach, the person at the snack bar getting popcorn...everyone would give me hell for this, because everyone knows you can't do this...the dunker would probably have a look on his face knowing he got away with one.

Haven't you yourself said you've only been officiating for at most two years? I'd be very careful in trying to determine what is and isn't the intent of the rules...the replies you get on the forum come from those that have been doing this a lot longer than you and I have. I would concentrate more on knowing the rules inside and out, mechanics, and how to properly enforce the rules.
I'm not sure I'm being understood. I'm talking about what grunewar is talking about, and tref when he indicated it would be allowed because during a dunk, and Snaq when he seemed to make a distinction based on whether control of the ball was maintained. Some of you seem to be imagining moment being applied to the ring. I'm just talking about a simple grasp, nothing else--no affect whatever on the goal taking place by the hand with the ball doing the dunking.
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Not if the grasping was done while control of the ball had been lost.
FTR, I've revised my post. The exception in 4-6 does not apply to 10-3. I should have caught that before responding, but I've now crossed out the irrelevant portions of my initial response.
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Old Mon Apr 11, 2011, 01:43pm
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FTR, I've revised my post. The exception in 4-6 does not apply to 10-3. I should have caught that before responding, but I've now crossed out the irrelevant portions of my initial response.
To be fair, I was sidetracked when basket interference was brought up earlier. JR was right that it didn't apply in this case.
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