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Old Wed Feb 09, 2011, 08:55am
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The writer of the case book believes the POI is not the AP but the TRY IN FLIGHT!
And the writer is completely correct as per NFHS rule 4-36. The POI is the try in flight. And some of the POI's end up being AP's, and this is one of them.

And for the record, I'm not sure exactly whatinthehell you two are arguing about. The rules are very clear imo. Rule 4-36-1 lays out when you go to the POI. Rule 4-36-2 lays out how you resume play at the POI is in different situations. And in the play being discussed, you use 4-36-2(c) because neither team was in control.

It's straightforward to me.
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And the writer is completely correct as per NFHS rule 4-36. The POI is the try in flight. And some of the POI's end up being AP's, and this is one of them.

And for the record, I'm not sure exactly whatinthehell you two are arguing about. The rules are very clear imo. Rule 4-36-1 lays out when you go to the POI. Rule 4-36-2 lays out how you resume play at the POI is in different situations. And in the play being discussed, you use 4-36-2(c) because neither team was in control.

It's straightforward to me.
Some believe the POI in this case is the AP Arrow. I say the POI is not the AP Arrow, but the AP is the way we resume play, just as you have said. But others disagreed and the argument began.
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Old Wed Feb 09, 2011, 10:08am
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Some believe the POI in this case is the AP Arrow. I say the POI is not the AP Arrow, but the AP is the way we resume play, just as you have said. But others disagreed and the argument began.

This will hurt your argument, but I agree with you.


POI= Play is resumed at the point of interruption. We start over at the exact point where we would have been had there been no whistle. If this is not possible, play is resumed with an AP throwin.
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Some believe the POI in this case is the AP Arrow. I say the POI is not the AP Arrow, but the AP is the way we resume play, just as you have said. But others disagreed and the argument began.
Semantics, guys. And semantics that do nothing but confuse.

The POI is the POI. Nothing more; nothing less. You resume play according to the play conditions at the time of the POI.

You both obviously know the rule and how to apply it correctly. Why argue about meaningless semantics?

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Semantics, guys. And semantics that do nothing but confuse.

The POI is the POI. Nothing more; nothing less. You resume play according to the play conditions at the time of the POI.

You both obviously know the rule and how to apply it correctly. Why argue about meaningless semantics?

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To get to the other side?
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Semantics, guys. And semantics that do nothing but confuse.

The POI is the POI. Nothing more; nothing less. You resume play according to the play conditions at the time of the POI.

You both obviously know the rule and how to apply it correctly. Why argue about meaningless semantics?

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To get to the other side?
Because it's in his nature.
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It's what scorpions do. I think this is a comment directed at my propensity for arguing semantics!
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It's what scorpions do. I think this is a comment directed at my propensity for arguing meaningless semantics.
Fixed it for ya...

And with any luck I pissed off both you and bainsey while doing so.
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Fixed it for ya...

And with any luck I pissed off both you and bainsey while doing so.
Where you trying to piss us off?
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Were you trying to piss us off?
Intent is not a factor.
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Intentional Foul on mbyron. Two shots and the ball!
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Intentional Foul on mbyron. Two shots and the ball!
Hmph. That's the thanks I get for fixing your spelling error?
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It's what scorpions do. I think this is a comment directed at my propensity for arguing semantics!
Nah, more about why I've engaged the argument for so long.
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